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#141 Posted : Tuesday, 15 August 2017 7:01:55 AM(UTC)
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#142 Posted : Tuesday, 15 August 2017 10:10:17 AM(UTC)
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Is the contention here that appx. 600 completed body shells had their firewalls changed under improvised conditions, no jigs, spot welds cut, repaired, resealed to the plenum, respotwelded, etc etc? Probably 2000 man hours of rework.

It really doesn't sound very plausible.

Is there any photographic evidence of this rework anywhere? The cars must show some evidence, surely.
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#143 Posted : Tuesday, 15 August 2017 3:58:19 PM(UTC)
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I stand corrected then.

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#144 Posted : Wednesday, 16 August 2017 7:23:10 AM(UTC)
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A common myth among HQ owners is that there are two versions of the standard "Holden" grille badge. One that features a red stripe around the edge of the badge and another without the red, just grey. Try telling a believer of this one that they ALL started out with the red stripe and that the Aussie sun fades it over time so that it completely disappears eventually.
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#145 Posted : Wednesday, 16 August 2017 8:16:10 AM(UTC)
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A common myth among HQ owners is that there are two versions of the standard "Holden" grille badge. One that features a red stripe around the edge of the badge and another without the red, just grey. Try telling a believer of this one that they ALL started out with the red stripe and that the Aussie sun fades it over time so that it completely disappears eventually.


There are many myths regarding the colour fading in plastic badges. The fact is that the Aussie sun does fade & most badges change colour over time.

The FB/EK steering wheel centre emblem is another great example. I'm not even sure what colour they were when new, but you do see some with green stars & some with blue stars. However there is only part number, which to me, indicates that they left the factory all the same.

However here we are 57years later & many turn up with either green or blue stars. Even in pristine low mileage cars, which have been garaged & babied all there life, leave no clues. Some are blue & on some cars they are green.

The only logical explanation that I can give is that there may have been 2 different suppliers, which was quite common for GM-H in those days. Even for things like starter motors & alternators they used either Lucas or Bosch. So it's not unusual for them to have 2 suppliers for bits like badges etc. So if these 2 suppliers each used a different pigment for colouring the stars, they may have aged & therefore changed colour differently.

It's an argument that continues in the FB/EK community.

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#146 Posted : Wednesday, 16 August 2017 11:27:07 AM(UTC)
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I think that they just go from blue to green and then they go gold.
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#147 Posted : Wednesday, 16 August 2017 12:10:29 PM(UTC)
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I think that they just go from blue to green and then they go gold.


So you're saying that they were originally blue & then go green with age ?

The problem that I have is that, is I have some very old weathered ones which are solid blue & I also have some very nice ones (read almost new looking) which are green.

Out of the 8 or 9 that I have they are either blue or green & none are gold,

The FE/FC ones I have do go gold,

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#148 Posted : Wednesday, 16 August 2017 4:15:54 PM(UTC)
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I think that they just go from blue to green and then they go gold.


So you're saying that they were originally blue & then go green with age ?

The problem that I have is that, is I have some very old weathered ones which are solid blue & I also have some very nice ones (read almost new looking) which are green.

Out of the 8 or 9 that I have they are either blue or green & none are gold,

The FE/FC ones I have do go gold,

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A dude I know collects them horn buttons, does them up and sells them.
Maybe only the red ones go gold, I will ask him.
I thought they went from blue to green due to fading, I have seen silver or a chrome look as well.

With the red I think it's the because of the lead in the red.
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#149 Posted : Wednesday, 16 August 2017 6:01:17 PM(UTC)
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The blue painted centre emblem FE FC go to a gold centre.

The FB EK is black with silver Holden lion and blue stars and they can go to chrome I believe.

The FX has a longer tail on some, maybe the early ones.

He was showing me two blue FB EK ones that look like new.

He has 3 old original toy Bat Mobiles all in top nick and one is still in the box and a Bat Boat, not to mention a framed life size picture of the original Cat Woman.
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