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#1 Posted : Wednesday, 12 October 2011 4:13:52 AM(UTC)
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As a background this car has been owned since 1974 so it's history from then is known and nothing has been altered since then.
It is registered as a 1969 Holden and looks like a HT.
Body Plate says:
81837
2807986-10
TRIM-PRIME
TOP- (blank)
PAINT- (blank)

There is no ADR plate.

Numbers on steering box are: 3J9.

Number stamped on firewall is:
HG21249A.

Does anyone have any suggestions as to how a HT has a HG chassis number or can add any info from the numbers shown?
Any ideas on assembly from these numbers?

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#2 Posted : Wednesday, 12 October 2011 4:21:41 AM(UTC)
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It is a replacement body shell and would reflect the shell it replaced. So I would say that sometime in 1970 to 75 the car was smashed and written off. The standard practice back then was to buy a new shell (all replacement parts after HG production started are HG).

The car was rebodied and re registered as the 1969 HT. BTW this is the 10th 81837 replacment body shell, so 9 81837s had the same treatment before yours.

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#3 Posted : Wednesday, 12 October 2011 4:35:13 AM(UTC)
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Thanks for the reply, I'm glad they went to all that trouble back then just to save a Holden :)
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#4 Posted : Wednesday, 12 October 2011 4:01:53 PM(UTC)
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They were still doing the same thing 20 years later.
One of this forum's members owns a VN that had the same treatment.
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#5 Posted : Thursday, 13 October 2011 5:27:44 AM(UTC)
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When I was looking at a V2 to VZ Monaro I found a series I that had a VZ body, same thing.

It got my attention because it was painted Turismo. It had the US body (fuel tank in boot) but series I dash etc.

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#6 Posted : Thursday, 13 October 2011 7:14:22 AM(UTC)
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call the police thats a rebirth lol
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#7 Posted : Thursday, 13 October 2011 5:46:06 PM(UTC)
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call the police thats a rebirth lol

What makes that a rebirth ?

I've seem plenty of late model cars repaired using a new body, purchased legitimately.

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#8 Posted : Friday, 14 October 2011 8:23:09 AM(UTC)
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yes this car was real, it had a new compliance plate, issued by the local transport department.

As is the practice today.

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#9 Posted : Saturday, 29 October 2011 9:11:59 AM(UTC)
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my brother had the same problem with his ht-hg 81837 monaro. his had the paint as prime and the trim as nil. australian muscle car mag did a story on it a while ago. turned out it was a round australia rally car in its day. i think leigh robertson? owned the car. we buried it at the browns palains tip in the eary eighties along with a hk 307 4 speed car.kel
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#10 Posted : Monday, 31 October 2011 10:04:11 PM(UTC)
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So when it comes time to re-register the car, which number does Vic Roads use as the vehicle chassis/vin number?
I'm just wondering if the HG prefix might cause any confusion?

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#11 Posted : Tuesday, 1 November 2011 7:42:11 AM(UTC)
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Just take the old rego papers and they should have the chassis number on them, ie HG21249A.

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#12 Posted : Thursday, 3 November 2011 6:47:18 AM(UTC)
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my brother had the same problem with his ht-hg 81837 monaro. his had the paint as prime and the trim as nil. australian muscle car mag did a story on it a while ago. turned out it was a round australia rally car in its day. i think leigh robertson? owned the car. we buried it at the browns palains tip in the eary eighties along with a hk 307 4 speed car.kel



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#13 Posted : Thursday, 3 November 2011 6:17:56 PM(UTC)
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You can pick an 'alternative' whether it be poorly done or 'close enough'. You shouldnt be able to pick a reproduction.
"shouldn ' t"
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#14 Posted : Friday, 4 November 2011 6:33:12 AM(UTC)
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As a background this car has been owned since 1974 so it's history from then is known and nothing has been altered since then.




"its"

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#15 Posted : Friday, 4 November 2011 8:54:27 AM(UTC)
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agreed, we're all human :)
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#16 Posted : Saturday, 5 November 2011 4:54:11 AM(UTC)
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quote:
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agreed, we're all human :)


not all of us.....
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#17 Posted : Sunday, 13 November 2011 5:07:16 AM(UTC)
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I know its not a monaro but my HG wagon reads
HG 80135
no 2807981-7A
TRIM-PRIME
PAINT-(blank)

Firewall HG 20879 A

I purchased it of the original owner (a mechanic) who built it from scratch using a written off monaro as the donor car hense it has a 350 chev, saginaw 4 sp, fluted guards, monaro dash & steering wheel & monaro tramp rods. Suprises alot of people.
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#18 Posted : Saturday, 19 November 2011 7:12:36 AM(UTC)
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oops. sorry about the spelling mistakes. my english teacher would be having a fit if she was not DEAD. 1 glass too many of red wine has that effect on my person. please feel free to correct me in person at the next swap you see myself at. regards kelvin wright ,esquire.
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#19 Posted : Saturday, 17 December 2011 11:45:13 PM(UTC)
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So the mystery continues!
Any one know what these notes might mean, found under the paint on firewall and cowel?
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#20 Posted : Wednesday, 8 February 2012 2:58:28 AM(UTC)
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Well the engine bay is cleaned up, but before the engine goes back in;
is there a colour name or code for the red/brown that the top of the steering box was once painted?
Any suggestions appreciated.
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