Welcome Guest! To enable all features please Login or Register.

Notification

Icon
Error

Login


Take the time to read our Privacy Policy.

stephenreed Offline
#1 Posted : Tuesday, 17 January 2012 12:15:37 PM(UTC)
stephenreed

Rank: Member

Reputation:

Groups: Registered
Joined: 7/03/2010(UTC)
Posts: 133

What brand water trap/seperator are people using on their air compressors for spray painting. I'm in the process of buying one but don't want to buy a shlt one. I'm happy to spend $$$ to get a decent one but not sure what brand to buy.

Has anyone used the supersheap auto ones and if so whats their opinions on them?


Cheers
1970 HG Panelvan
1971 HQ 1 Tonner
2001 WH Statesman
Kawazaki KLX250SF
commodorenut Offline
#2 Posted : Tuesday, 17 January 2012 4:09:41 PM(UTC)
commodorenut

Rank: Veteran

Reputation:

Groups: Moderator, Registered, Veteran
Joined: 2/03/2005(UTC)
Posts: 3,135

Thanks: 1 times
Was thanked: 35 time(s) in 33 post(s)
Stick to the well-known brands & you can't go wrong - SMC, Festo, Parker, Legris etc.

Do you have a 'real' tool shop near you rather than an automotive bunnings like supercheap?

Reason I ask, is that I know a guy who sells decent filter/regs to the wholesale market, and the supercrap ones are literally a $5 cost item from china/india/taiwan that are whatever the supplier can get their hands on for that week. It's likely that the next batch will be totally different, but they will come in a pretty package to please the average joe blow customer who doesn't care if he can't buy a new bowl or element for it in 6 months time.

Good ones are of quality construction, hold stable pressure much better (don't rely on the cheap regs fitted to most sub-$600 compressors - built to a price) and they filter a lot better than the cheap ones. A specialist pneumatic supplier should be able to supply you a decent one at a reasonable price - it's probably going to be cheaper (and easier) in the long run to get a combined "all in one" coalescing filter-reg unit.
Cheers,

Mick
_______________________________________________________________

Judge a successful man not on how he treats his peers, but on how he treats those less fortunate.
cloudy Offline
#3 Posted : Tuesday, 17 January 2012 4:24:50 PM(UTC)
cloudy

Rank: Veteran

Reputation:

Groups: Registered, Veteran
Joined: 1/03/2005(UTC)
Posts: 2,047

True, rather than a new cheap compressor I got a second hand Clisby made in Australia I have a 2cyl and a 3 cyl unit.
928S Offline
#4 Posted : Wednesday, 18 January 2012 4:00:05 AM(UTC)
928S

Rank: Member

Reputation:

Groups: Registered
Joined: 16/01/2012(UTC)
Posts: 21

You already have some good advice but I would just like to add something that is worthwhile, it has certainly been worthwhile to me and when you will find it most effective is when there is humidity around and the efficiency can really be seen then.

What I did was get a plastic tub about 50 litres in size, used to Be used for brewing beer, bought a full roll of annealed copper pipe, still available at places like Bunnings or Tradelink, Reece etc (copper is getting replaced with plastic even in pressure pipes) I then wound it around the inside of the tube like a big coil and then it goes to the water/oil separator and then to the gas trap.

I used to put icy bricks with cold water into the tub when I was painting and I am sure that air was very dry when it passed through the system. It catches lots of water so remember to keep emptying it. I use SMC and they have served me well. The coil is effectively a dryer like panel shops have. It substantially raises the efficiency of the separator/gas trap.

stephenreed Offline
#5 Posted : Wednesday, 18 January 2012 5:41:07 AM(UTC)
stephenreed

Rank: Member

Reputation:

Groups: Registered
Joined: 7/03/2010(UTC)
Posts: 133

Thanks guys, my gut feeling was to spend that little extra money and buy a decent trap. I just didnt know what brands were the go.

Cheers..
1970 HG Panelvan
1971 HQ 1 Tonner
2001 WH Statesman
Kawazaki KLX250SF
peter_flane Offline
#6 Posted : Wednesday, 18 January 2012 6:51:05 AM(UTC)
peter_flane

Rank: Veteran

Reputation:

Groups: Registered, Veteran
Joined: 22/05/2005(UTC)
Posts: 1,384

A good mid range unit would be the Jamec Pem brand. They are an Australian company, been a brand part of compressed air in our country longer than Holdens. Without going industrial professional, that is a brand I would recommend. Should be available at any Repco, Bursons, Autobarn, industrial supplier etc.
If it is old or rare - Cut it! http://www.ehlimo.com.au/
jabba Offline
#7 Posted : Wednesday, 18 January 2012 3:13:00 PM(UTC)
jabba

Rank: Member

Reputation:

Groups: Registered
Joined: 17/04/2005(UTC)
Posts: 465

A further piece of advice from a tool shop guy when I bought my last trap was that there should be at least 1 meter of hose from the compressor outlet to the trap and it should be mounted higher than the outlet. If you put the water trap (as many do) on the compressor with a short length of hose, the water will just go straight past the trap and end up in the hose anyway. The length and rise gives the water vapour time to settle out of the air stream and get trapped properly.
It certainly seems to work, in that I do see water in the trap when using the compressor.
__________________________________________
Keep the shiny side up, and the greasy side down.
Dr Terry Offline
#8 Posted : Wednesday, 18 January 2012 5:43:51 PM(UTC)
Dr Terry

Rank: Veteran

Reputation:

Groups: Moderator, Registered
Joined: 1/03/2005(UTC)
Posts: 6,026

Thanks: 1 times
Was thanked: 198 time(s) in 181 post(s)
quote:
Originally posted by peter_flane
A good mid range unit would be the Jamec Pem brand. They are an Australian company, been a brand part of compressed air in our country longer than Holdens.

That would be Holden the car, not Holden the body builder or company name.

Jamec PEM have been around since around the mid/late 1930s.

Holden was established in 1856 as a saddle maker, they built their 1st car body in 1913 & merged with GM in 1931 to form the company we know today as GM Holden.

An interesting piece of trivia is that they are the oldest of all the GM subsidiaries & division, I believe that Opel is the 2nd oldest.

Dr Terry

P.S. There is nothing wrong with Jamec PEM equipment though, I've been using it for years.
If at first you don't succeed, just call it Version 1.0
928S Offline
#9 Posted : Thursday, 19 January 2012 1:25:44 AM(UTC)
928S

Rank: Member

Reputation:

Groups: Registered
Joined: 16/01/2012(UTC)
Posts: 21

quote:
Originally posted by jabba
A further piece of advice from a tool shop guy when I bought my last trap was that there should be at least 1 meter of hose from the compressor outlet to the trap and it should be mounted higher than the outlet. If you put the water trap (as many do) on the compressor with a short length of hose, the water will just go straight past the trap and end up in the hose anyway. The length and rise gives the water vapour time to settle out of the air stream and get trapped properly.
It certainly seems to work, in that I do see water in the trap when using the compressor.


That is why I posted about the home made dryer, which is multiple times more efficient, either way you need something.
peter_flane Offline
#10 Posted : Thursday, 19 January 2012 4:10:23 AM(UTC)
peter_flane

Rank: Veteran

Reputation:

Groups: Registered, Veteran
Joined: 22/05/2005(UTC)
Posts: 1,384

That's what I meant. That is why I said Holdens, not Holden. Holdens are the cars, Holden is a company.
If it is old or rare - Cut it! http://www.ehlimo.com.au/
Users browsing this topic
Guest
Forum Jump  
You cannot post new topics in this forum.
You cannot reply to topics in this forum.
You cannot delete your posts in this forum.
You cannot edit your posts in this forum.
You cannot create polls in this forum.
You cannot vote in polls in this forum.

Powered by YAF | YAF © 2003-2024, Yet Another Forum.NET
This page was generated in 0.296 seconds.