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Thanks for the info Byron - looks like another HQ Sandman ute to the list.
This ute has some features that would not line up with standard Sandman (if there is such a thing!) - GTS badges on guards (with Kingswood badges!), black HQ grille with GTS badge and GTS badge in steering wheel and ribbed metal sill panel covers (as per HQ Statesman) and HQ Premier shield badges on B pillars, and clock in the GTS dash.
I assume from your info that these are most likely to have been dealer fitted - car was apparently a specific factory order but never had any doco to support this. |
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As per may email Iain, either dealer or owner fitted for all the GTS and Premier badges, plus the Premier/Statesman sill strips.
Also as I mentioned, close to the best Sandman of the lot to own - HQ Kingswood ute in 308 manual in Chrome Yellow. They dont come much more desirable than that!
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Also as I mentioned, close to the best Sandman of the lot to own - HQ Kingswood ute in 308 manual in Chrome Yellow. They dont come much more desirable than that!
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Hi Guys,
I am new to this website.
I have just purchased a HJ Sandman Ute (8WM80) and need some help indentifying the engine code.
It currently has a 308 so eng code should be L32 but instead is D1.
Any Help??
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Oh I forgot to mention the Chassis number is:
8M80DEJ490660J
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It was originally a 173ci 6cylinder which lines up with your engine code of LD1 and the D in the VIN number (which you have called chassis number). This is the standard engine for most of HJ Sandman, but it most likely isn't a Sandman as a HJ HOLDEN Sandman ute is very rare (most were Kingswood Sandman) and 6cyl Sandman is very rare also especially 173ci examples. I've recorded hundreds of HQ-HZ Sandmans and only 1 x with a 173, primarily as it was only available for basically 1974 and 1975 and not available on Kingswood. It could just be a very rare Sandman though. Note that 308 is L31 not L32. Being an August 1975 build it's right on the changeover when XX7 became XU3 and derated XX7 was introduced, so the GVW should be 2155kg and of no help. So to even be a hope of being a Sandman it must be a 2 seat capacity, M20 or M40 gearbox with floor shift and have a floor console front mount in front of the shifter.
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Hi Thanks for your help.
It has a M15 and a GV7 (originally) and is def a ute.
I will have a better look in the weekend and supply some more details.
Are all the Utes Sandmans if their model num is HJ8WM80 and boot num 490660M?
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Not a Sandman. M15 is 3spd manual. HJ8WM80 just means HJ HOLDEN utility.
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OK...the time has come to put my tags up for critique.
I have, what I believe to be, a HJ Sandman van.It should be a 6 cylinder, 4 speed Jamaica Lime van....I think
Tags are as follows
Model - HJ8WM70
Body No - 145327-A
Trim - 1905-19V
Paint - 568-17342
Eng - L20
Trans - M20
RRaxle - GV7
Built - 03/75
Chassis No - BHJ16984A
GVW - 2155kg
Seating Cap - 2
Let the games begin.............
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oops..forgot the small tag.......
8M70LEL3*****J
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I do have that vehicle recorded as a possible Sandman. There is no way to tell from its ID though. You'll have to go looking elsewhere on the body and chassis for signs of Sandman. Extended headlining is your best indicator though, but not a guarantee.
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I bought it as an empty shell...and I do mean empty.
It has the rear hoodling panel with the teeth on it and hood bow holes in the cargo bay. Also has interior light switch holes in the front door pillars if that helps.
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Certainly sounds like one.
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Did The Hz sandman ever leave the showroom with GTS Guards ????(
My Hz Ute (XX7) has them fitted and i have no real way of telling if they have been fitted after market or factory ... It also came with N67 wheels...
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The GTS guard thing is a mystery. I had heard that they were used up on Sandman after GTS finished but none have come to light yet. To have N67 rims it'd be a late 1978 onwards.
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Byron, how many Brisbane built Sandmans do you have recorded with XX7 stamped on the plate and build dates of 1/74 and 2/74?
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2 x 2/74, no 1/74. 1 x 12/73, 1 x 1/74 and 1 x 2/74 suspected as Sandman without XX7 but will never know if they are or not.
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hx sandman ute on ebay is the MODEL 8WM80XR normal I thought it should be HX8WM80R  
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has a non matching chassis by the sounds though. Im waiting on a reply.
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Those plates are 100% normal for a Sydney built HX ute. Remember it's a Sydney build, not Adelaide.
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