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#1 Posted : Friday, 17 February 2012 10:07:42 AM(UTC)
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Hi,

Can people post links to websites which contain information about the HG panelvan, i'm struggling to find any good info on them.

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#2 Posted : Friday, 17 February 2012 5:44:42 PM(UTC)
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What info do you need. People here may have answers.
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#3 Posted : Friday, 17 February 2012 8:42:53 PM(UTC)
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I'm really just after general info like, how many made, specifications etc.
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#4 Posted : Friday, 17 February 2012 9:11:21 PM(UTC)
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There is no known production figure as far as I know. Specifications are basically the same as HG Belmont. Standard configuration is 161HC and 3spd with bench and drums all round, with 161LC, 186, 186S, 253HC and 308 optional. Late HG commercial (post HQ release) has 173 and 202 for 6cyl engines.
Standard gearbox M15 3spd gearbox except with 308 where M21 Saginaw 4spd standard. M21 Saginaw optional with 253. Column shift M40 trimatic optional on all engines.
3.55 banjo standard. I think they may all be banjo except for possibly 308 M21 which should be 3.36 LSD Salisbury.
G80 LSD optional.
Disc brakes optional on 6cyl, standard on V8.
Standard tyres: 7.35x14x6ply
Bucket seats optional with seat separator except where M21 optioned.
Centre seatbelt with bench optional (mandatory some States).
Other options:
F60 Heavy duty front springs.
G66 Superlift shocks.
A22 laminated screen.
A02 Tinted Laminated screen.
C42 Heater-Demister Deluxe (with fan).
N10 Dual exhaust on V8.
U60 11 transistor radio.
U63 Deluxe pushbutton 11 transistor radio.
U21 Instrument cluster.
V01 Heavy Duty radiator.
K45 HD air cleaner 6cyl only (not 186S).
TP1 HD battery.
P02 Wheel Trim Disc
DG1 Rear vision mirror passenger side (mandatory in QLD, Vic, Tas & WA except where D44 fender mounted mirror specified).
Optional XT1 tyres 7.35x14x6 ply with tubes, OR
P25 - 2 x 7.35x14x6ply wintertread rear tyres (standard on front)

Air con C64 not mentioned as an option BUT stuff like heavy duty battery and radiator noted as standard on 6cyl when C45 specified. May be a hangover from HG passenger specifications. C64 was dropped from HG in 2/71 in any case.

Also, 6 x colours officially available on HG Belmont:

Warrigal Black, Kashmir White, Cascade Green, Cinnamon Brown, Rally Red and Sudan Beige. Plus late in HG production HQ colours became the norm especially commercials. Tunisian Turquoise was made available in April 1971. Cascade green deleted May 1971.

Trims were: Gold, red or green in A or B codes for bench and buckets, with XU3 (neutral headlining) available for most trims (mandatory on some late trim codes).

Warrigal black and Kashmir white had all 3 x trims available.
Cascade green only had green.
Cinnamon brown and Sudan beige only had gold trim.
Rally Red only had red trim.

Note that the items above noted as deleted in 1971 were definitely for Victorian production, but not confirmed as totally correct for other assembly plants.
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#5 Posted : Friday, 17 February 2012 10:06:54 PM(UTC)
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Thats pretty good for "off the top of your head" Byron!!!

What about the HK panelvan?
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#6 Posted : Friday, 17 February 2012 10:45:54 PM(UTC)
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There is no way that is off the top of my head, it is from the HG commercial order form and ordering procedure. I don't have the same thing for HK, others here do though.
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#7 Posted : Friday, 17 February 2012 10:51:50 PM(UTC)
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Yeah... I'd be a bit worried if that kind of info could be recalled off the top of my head :-)

Too busy remembering where my car keys are

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#8 Posted : Saturday, 18 February 2012 9:03:37 AM(UTC)
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If I could ad to Byron's post, any Belmont ordered with bucket seats received Kingswood trim. There was no Belmont bucket seat pattern. I have stumbled across several 'C' trim codes on HG Belmonts where they have HT Basketweave vinyl, sometimes with the addition of the HT Kingswood cloth insert as a combination. Still unsure what the 'A' & 'B' represent on the trim code. Some thought the 'B' indicated buckets but his is not the case.

Whilst holidaying in Tassie 10 years or so ago I came across a Rally Red HG Belmont panelvan, 308 3 speed manual with Gold trim. Stock as a rock this thing was and I spoke to the original owner.

308 with three speed column manual was offered for the first time in HG.

All HG's had a black glovebox lid, regardless of model and trim colour. So HG Belmonts had that plain black glovebox.

When purchasing or looking at HK HT HG Commercials, one must always check the paint codes. A lot, and you'll be surpised how many, were painted in non standard fleet colours and there were hundreds of different colours. I had a HG Belmont Buttercup Bakery Bread van. It was red but I checked out the paint code and it was Buttercup Lemon Yellow with a Grecian White (HK) roof. It had blue trim.

All HG had black washer jets and no chrome on the interior mirror stalk or sunvisor pivots.

Engine designation badge was located on the tailgate (except 161,173,202 which had none).

All HG Belmonts had Deluxe heater/demister standard from Jan 71 due to a change in ADR.

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#9 Posted : Saturday, 18 February 2012 4:14:13 PM(UTC)
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My HG van's original colour is Frost Blue with Twilight Blue interior. Originally it had a 202 with a 4 speed, heater and radio. Build date Sept 71.
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#10 Posted : Saturday, 18 February 2012 7:47:56 PM(UTC)
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Originally posted by HKTG Parts Recovery
Whilst holidaying in Tassie 10 years or so ago I came across a Rally Red HG Belmont panelvan, 308 3 speed manual with Gold trim. Stock as a rock this thing was and I spoke to the original owner.

308 with three speed column manual was offered for the first time in HG.

I'm not sure that the 308 3-speed combination was ever made officially available. I've seen several but none were factory.
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Engine designation badge was located on the tailgate (except 161,173,202 which had none).

The several 202 HG commercials that I've seen have all had 202 badges on the tailgate, this is what made me look under the bonnet.

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#11 Posted : Sunday, 19 February 2012 2:22:31 PM(UTC)
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Dr Terry, the HG van that I have doesnt have the 202 badge on the tailgate.
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#12 Posted : Monday, 20 February 2012 1:44:09 AM(UTC)
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Thanks for the info guys. Keep it coming. Very interesting.

What can you tell me about my HG Pano,

Model: HG 80170
Body no: 1641-a
Trim: 1801-11a
Paint: 568-12206

Small tag reads, 80170gj259459 HG Panelvan 12/70 hg12735a

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#13 Posted : Monday, 20 February 2012 1:45:04 AM(UTC)
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Was there any 'rare/special' HG Panelvans?
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#14 Posted : Monday, 20 February 2012 2:21:09 AM(UTC)
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I remember an HG panel van at the 1971 Royal Easter Show Holden stand. It was Lina-Mint with Aunger Hustler mags & GTS sidewinder stripes (from HG GTS). It was a 308 4-speed Saginaw with buckets & GTS instruments. Not too many around like that.

I wonder where this car is now.

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I think Simon you'll find that with trim A is bench and B is buckets. That is how it is in HQ. B doesn't get you Kingswood trim, maybe Kingswood seats but the door trims and other bits remain the same. C would be interesting, as like the 308 3spd it was probably not officially available.
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#16 Posted : Monday, 20 February 2012 8:31:59 AM(UTC)
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I think Simon you'll find that with trim A is bench and B is buckets. That is how it is in HQ. B doesn't get you Kingswood trim, maybe Kingswood seats but the door trims and other bits remain the same. C would be interesting, as like the 308 3spd it was probably not officially available.


Sorry Byron but this is not the case. I am currently researching for Warren on this and I have tags as proof. The Belmonts reTained the Belmont trim except for when ordered with buckets the bucket seat trim pattern was Kingswood. There is no such thing as Belmont trim on a bucket seat.

Look in you HG Parts Catalogue for confirmation on 308 3 speed manual.
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Originally posted by Dr Terry
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Originally posted by HKTG Parts Recovery
Whilst holidaying in Tassie 10 years or so ago I came across a Rally Red HG Belmont panelvan, 308 3 speed manual with Gold trim. Stock as a rock this thing was and I spoke to the original owner.

308 with three speed column manual was offered for the first time in HG.

I'm not sure that the 308 3-speed combination was ever made officially available. I've seen several but none were factory.
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Engine designation badge was located on the tailgate (except 161,173,202 which had none).

The several 202 HG commercials that I've seen have all had 202 badges on the tailgate, this is what made me look under the bonnet.

Dr Terry


Dr Terry please look in your HG Parts Catalogue for confirmation on 308 3 speed manual.
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My HG van's original colour is Frost Blue with Twilight Blue interior. Originally it had a 202 with a 4 speed, heater and radio. Build date Sept 71.


Although referred to as Twilight Blue in HT HG, this was only the case for non Belmont models. Belmont trim was:

Gold, Red, Green, Blue. They were plain unique vinyl colours without the mottled pattern unlike Antique Gold, Baroque Red, Venetian Green and Twilight Blue.
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Originally posted by stephenreed
Thanks for the info guys. Keep it coming. Very interesting.

What can you tell me about my HG Pano,

Model: HG 80170
Body no: 1641-a
Trim: 1801-11a
Paint: 568-12206

Small tag reads, 80170gj259459 HG Panelvan 12/70 hg12735a

Cheers


HG Belmont Van, 6 cylinder, Sudan Beige with Gold interior trim. 1641st HG Belmont 6 van built in Adelaide.
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quote:
Originally posted by HKTG Parts Recovery
quote:
Originally posted by tranx
My HG van's original colour is Frost Blue with Twilight Blue interior. Originally it had a 202 with a 4 speed, heater and radio. Build date Sept 71.


Although referred to as Twilight Blue in HT HG, this was only the case for non Belmont models. Belmont trim was:

Gold, Red, Green, Blue. They were plain unique vinyl colours without the mottled pattern unlike Antique Gold, Baroque Red, Venetian Green and Twilight Blue.


Simon, it was definitely a Belmont as it had a Belmont badge on the tailgate without a 202 badge. It must have been a "rare" HG van LOL cheers Sean
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