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#1 Posted : Thursday, 30 August 2018 7:57:12 PM(UTC)
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How do you like the way that the new ADR oils are heading now.

We have to use a new sec DEXOST 1 ETC now in new Holden's and others, and what this does additive does is stop the LSPI.
So you have to use it or you lose your warranty, brake a piston without it and you have not a leg to stand on.

Looks like a thin oils to save fuel are crap and what can happen is that you can get LSPI low speed pre-ign because the oil is to thin, they must be using a lot of oil I would think.
I have seen a lot of V6 commodores with a lot of carbon caked at the exhaust tips, they must be using a lot of oil to do that.
A lot of the Colorado's use a lot of oil with 5w/30 but they went thicker oil 5w/40and that stoped that problem.

Now 0w/16 is out for new cars to pass new ADR type laws coming out.

So one has to now watch out for LSPI, so we can not just toss in oil like we once did with the new engines now coming out as we have to be really true to the spec now or you can blow a piston.
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#2 Posted : Thursday, 6 September 2018 9:20:43 AM(UTC)
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How does a small mechanic make any cash these days as buying oil by the drum doesn't happen any more. How much oil does the average Colorado use ? Top the fucken thing up between services its less than 2 years old my 20 year old landcrusier never needed me to look at the oil between changes.
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#3 Posted : Thursday, 6 September 2018 1:23:00 PM(UTC)
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Mate who owns 2 Colorado's said that he had just about blown both of them up, other workers drive the Colorado's as well and I have seen him freaked out seeing only a bit on the dipstick many a time and go right off his f ing rocker I was there and seen it 2 times and he has 4 dump trucks and machines so I think he does know something, so when my brother bought a new colorado he said for me to warn him that they used oil, but my brothers never used oil, but old mate now had got the changed spec oil now and they do not use oil like they did with the 5w30 now that they have the new spec 5w40.

So what I was on about was that after finding out the latest is that the game has changed much with oils again nowadays that one has to be so carful, due to new ADR emissions and the new problems that are popping up.
So we have oil that is that thin that is passing the cyl walls causing LSPI and blowing pistons up and you have not a leg to stand on now if you do not use what Holden demands with the DEXOS because this stops the LSPI.

So old mate changes his oil should be informed about such to be sure.

Or a workshop can be up for it if they do not use the correct oil with DEXOS spec.

Not all engines use plenty of oil even the early Colorado's but many do or did.

I have heard of many Holden Alloytec V6 use a lot of oil, I see the tips of the exhaust covered in thick carbon like 3mm thick, so they must be using oil, why ? maybe they are using thin oils.

How many gen 3 V8's used heaps of oil I know of plenty of people who said such, but mine never used a drop not even 1mm drop on the stick in 10.000km all the way from new to 230.000km and it was driven hard.

I think it's that people are not running in the engine correctly that has to do with a lot of it, people still think that you will destroy a new engine if you drive it hard, well that is the biggest load of bullshit, as I have never seen a new engine that has been flogged right from day one have a problem but plenty for being driven to easy.
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#4 Posted : Friday, 7 September 2018 9:54:58 AM(UTC)
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Check out Berrima Diesel. They have an interesting perspective on this sewing machine oil that manufacturers recommend now.
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#5 Posted : Sunday, 9 September 2018 2:39:38 AM(UTC)
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Not diesels I know but in all my petrol cars I use Nulon 10W-40 synthetic. Both the Lexus and the Toyota specify 10W-30 but in both glovebox manuals they say to use 10W-40 or 15W-40 if towing or driving for long periods or off-road or if hot weather. To me that is Toyota admitting up front that 30 weight oil is not really suited for many situations. Older SAE oil charts show that 30 weight oil is only good for up to about 34degC ambient, in fact the chart in my DR650SE bike’s owner’s manual shows this. But the chart is changed for modern car owners manuals.
Remember all the new vehicle sellers care about is the numbers (with diesels that means “claimed” fuel economy and “claimed” tow capacity, both are fairy tales on new vehicles) and that the car lasts the warranty period or kM. Using these stupidly light weight oils allows them to claim better fuel economy.

Note that I ran 10W-50 Castrol synthetic in my V2 CV8 and it appeared to like it far better than the cr@p Holden specified.

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#6 Posted : Sunday, 9 September 2018 12:07:00 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: HK1837 Go to Quoted Post
Note that I ran 10W-50 Castrol synthetic in my V2 CV8 and it appeared to like it far better than the cr@p Holden specified.


I'm interested to know what type of Castrol oil you use?

I'm running Penerite Enviro 5W-30 at the moment and it seems to keep the lifters quieter then other oils I've tried, but I'm dubious as is still quite thin.
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#7 Posted : Sunday, 9 September 2018 12:11:38 PM(UTC)
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Castrol Edge. May have even been 10W-60. Was the best oil I could run in the V2. GMH specified 10W-30.
I used Nulon 10W-40 synthetic in the VZ Cross 8. It was the later (2005) LS though, not the earlier LS1 that was in the V2. It seemed to be fine with the Nulon.

The reason I started using the 10W-40 Nulon was it comes in 6L containers and I buy them 4 at a time when Supercheap have a 20% off sale. The Hilux uses about 5.5L and the Lexus 6.2L. Plus it’s Aussie made and seems to do the job.

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#8 Posted : Sunday, 9 September 2018 12:28:42 PM(UTC)
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I ran Caltex Delo 15w 40 mainly in my gen 3 and the same in my 4stroke dirt bikes.
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