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Guest		#1 Posted : Saturday, 27 May 2006 5:48:51 AM(UTC)
Rank: Guest Groups: Guests Joined: 2/09/2015(UTC) Posts: 43,977 Was thanked: 5 time(s) in 5 post(s)		Hi I have an old fx that I want to get on the road as chaeply as possible and it needs a new engine. Ive been advised simplest solution is to fit a red engine. Do you know if you need an enginerring certificate to fit a red engine into an fx. Any other ideas about the easiest and cheapest way to fit a new motor into an fx and what motor is best thanks

Guest		#2 Posted : Saturday, 27 May 2006 5:24:18 PM(UTC)
Rank: Guest Groups: Guests Joined: 2/09/2015(UTC) Posts: 43,977 Was thanked: 5 time(s) in 5 post(s)		Hi Jeff,I have an fj with red 186 Xu1 motor fitted.You will need to change your engine mount points on the crossmember.The easiest way to to this is to fit a modified front end from a HR with disc brakes.You can buy these from Rare spares or castlemaine r

peter_flane		#3 Posted : Sunday, 28 May 2006 3:55:14 AM(UTC)
Rank: Veteran Reputation: Groups: Registered, Veteran Joined: 22/05/2005(UTC) Posts: 1,384		If you put in a 138 red out of a Torana or a 149 out of an EH-HD then you would not need an engineers report. Once you go much more than 10% bigger in engine size the rego will critique the situation.
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johnperth		#4 Posted : Sunday, 28 May 2006 10:28:49 AM(UTC)
Rank: Veteran Reputation: Groups: Registered, Veteran Joined: 1/03/2005(UTC) Posts: 1,991 Was thanked: 2 time(s) in 2 post(s)		You are thinking as cheap as possible. Once you start needing certificates and disk brake fronts you are spending money. Try to find a good grey motor.
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Guest		#5 Posted : Sunday, 28 May 2006 10:41:25 AM(UTC)
Rank: Guest Groups: Guests Joined: 2/09/2015(UTC) Posts: 43,977 Was thanked: 5 time(s) in 5 post(s)		You have to change the crossmember or, at least, the engine mounts to put a red into an FX. My understanding is that any of these changes would need an engineers report. The only opinion that counts is the opinion of the Rego people in your State so y

Guest		#6 Posted : Sunday, 28 May 2006 10:41:25 AM(UTC)
Rank: Guest Groups: Guests Joined: 2/09/2015(UTC) Posts: 43,977 Was thanked: 5 time(s) in 5 post(s)		You have to change the crossmember or, at least, the engine mounts to put a red into an FX. My understanding is that any of these changes would need an engineer's report. The only opinion that counts is the opinion of the Rego people in your State so

Guest		#7 Posted : Friday, 2 June 2006 7:14:12 AM(UTC)
Rank: Guest Groups: Guests Joined: 2/09/2015(UTC) Posts: 43,977 Was thanked: 5 time(s) in 5 post(s)		Jeff ,sorry i,m so late with my reply, the rta states that you can increase engine size by 15% without an engineering certificate , this means a 138 or 149 red motor is fine .the original grey motor gearbox will bolt to this engine , use a grey clutch pla

johnperth		#8 Posted : Saturday, 3 June 2006 9:11:29 AM(UTC)
Rank: Veteran Reputation: Groups: Registered, Veteran Joined: 1/03/2005(UTC) Posts: 1,991 Was thanked: 2 time(s) in 2 post(s)		The original grey motor might bolt up but it won't take the stress of even a 149, I know I had a EH 149 and the box died on it, they had to fit what they called the "taxi " pack which i assume was a stronger lay shaft etc, if you go that way try to at le
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johnperth		#9 Posted : Saturday, 3 June 2006 9:11:29 AM(UTC)
Rank: Veteran Reputation: Groups: Registered, Veteran Joined: 1/03/2005(UTC) Posts: 1,991 Was thanked: 2 time(s) in 2 post(s)		The original grey motor might bolt up but it wont take the stress of even a 149, I know I had a EH 149 and the box died on it, they had to fit what they called the "taxi " pack which i assume was a stronger lay shaft etc, if you go that way try to at lea
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Guest		#10 Posted : Wednesday, 7 June 2006 6:16:55 AM(UTC)
Rank: Guest Groups: Guests Joined: 2/09/2015(UTC) Posts: 43,977 Was thanked: 5 time(s) in 5 post(s)		[quote]Originally posted by s4pete Jeff ,sorry i,m so late with my reply, the rta states that you can increase engine size by 15% without an engineering certificate , this means a 138 or 149 red motor is fine .the original grey motor gearbox

Guest		#11 Posted : Wednesday, 7 June 2006 7:51:13 AM(UTC)
Rank: Guest Groups: Guests Joined: 2/09/2015(UTC) Posts: 43,977 Was thanked: 5 time(s) in 5 post(s)		quote: Originally posted by Jeff [quote]Originally posted by s4pete Jeff ,sorry i,m so late with my reply, the r

peter_flane		#12 Posted : Wednesday, 7 June 2006 9:34:30 AM(UTC)
Rank: Veteran Reputation: Groups: Registered, Veteran Joined: 22/05/2005(UTC) Posts: 1,384		So buying a pre modified crossmember from Rare Spares or CRS means the welding has been done by a recognised welding process.
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Guest		#13 Posted : Thursday, 8 June 2006 6:51:18 AM(UTC)
Rank: Guest Groups: Guests Joined: 2/09/2015(UTC) Posts: 43,977 Was thanked: 5 time(s) in 5 post(s)		jeff once again sorry for my late reply . I quote ,"code of practice for light vehicle modificatation (nsw), 2.2.1 minor modification/owner certified, these are minor modificatations which have little or no effect on MTR and ADR (your car is precompliance

Guest		#14 Posted : Thursday, 8 June 2006 7:18:18 AM(UTC)
Rank: Guest Groups: Guests Joined: 2/09/2015(UTC) Posts: 43,977 Was thanked: 5 time(s) in 5 post(s)		(in Qld at least) rewelding engine mounts is modification to the chassis and the original structure of the vehicle, which has nothing to do with ADRs. Peter, yes those changeover crossmembers are good and should come with an engineering report. there Edited by user Thursday, 8 June 2006 7:20:19 AM(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified

Guest		#15 Posted : Thursday, 8 June 2006 7:18:18 AM(UTC)
Rank: Guest Groups: Guests Joined: 2/09/2015(UTC) Posts: 43,977 Was thanked: 5 time(s) in 5 post(s)		(in Qld at least) rewelding engine mounts is modification to the chassis and the original structure of the vehicle, which has nothing to do with ADR's. Peter, yes those changeover crossmembers are good and should come with an engineering report. there Edited by user Thursday, 8 June 2006 7:20:19 AM(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified

Guest		#16 Posted : Thursday, 8 June 2006 8:19:38 AM(UTC)
Rank: Guest Groups: Guests Joined: 2/09/2015(UTC) Posts: 43,977 Was thanked: 5 time(s) in 5 post(s)		Elton, as I said jeffs car is precompliance so ADRs are not relative to these mods, all advice given is relevant to NSW. Like I said, disc brake, hr front end would be the better option. The question once again was cheap, and legal! i gave the options for

Guest		#17 Posted : Thursday, 8 June 2006 8:19:38 AM(UTC)
Rank: Guest Groups: Guests Joined: 2/09/2015(UTC) Posts: 43,977 Was thanked: 5 time(s) in 5 post(s)		Elton, as I said jeffs car is precompliance so ADR's are not relative to these mods, all advice given is relevant to NSW. Like I said, disc brake, hr front end would be the better option. The question once again was cheap, and legal! i gave the options fo

Guest		#18 Posted : Monday, 21 May 2007 1:26:36 PM(UTC)
Rank: Guest Groups: Guests Joined: 2/09/2015(UTC) Posts: 43,977 Was thanked: 5 time(s) in 5 post(s)		hi i have a 33.5 diff from a vl comm is it to hard to modify for a eh sedan thnx i would love any feed back on if it needs shortened and any other imput

Fred		#19 Posted : Sunday, 20 January 2008 8:12:07 AM(UTC)
Rank: Member Reputation: Groups: Registered Joined: 23/07/2006(UTC) Posts: 207		Your looking at this all wrong don't seek out the cheapest way but what you should be looking for is the safest way while keeping the overall costs to a minimum. Best way to go is to buy kits and parts already made through the Castlemain Rod Shop as all
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Fred		#20 Posted : Sunday, 20 January 2008 8:12:07 AM(UTC)
Rank: Member Reputation: Groups: Registered Joined: 23/07/2006(UTC) Posts: 207		Your looking at this all wrong dont seek out the cheapest way but what you should be looking for is the safest way while keeping the overall costs to a minimum. Best way to go is to buy kits and parts already made through the Castlemain Rod Shop as all t
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