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#1 Posted : Wednesday, 22 August 2007 8:06:36 AM(UTC)
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I have a post on holden forum as well about this topic, but I am looking at putting an AU one tonner axle in a 98 ford transit, behind a 308t400, I measured an AU axle today, with just normal wheels on it. and it was 1370mm between the wheels.
to fit into the transit wheel arch,s I need 1500mm between wheels.
so after many phone calls to tyre and wheel places, who havent been able to help nor know, anything about anything, i am now bald, from pulling my hair out!!!!
It seems that the axle is wide enough, it seems that it will be fine if i can find strong steel wheels, that are going out from centre, rather than in.
i thought maybe this ford forum would have someone with some other ideas, possibly best solution to new diff,
transit diff is so low, so Au diff at about 2.92 is good, ratio?
so i got quoted 2400k for 9inch conversion, + disk brakes,+ wheels,
all help appreciated immensely
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#2 Posted : Thursday, 23 August 2007 1:11:58 AM(UTC)
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Hello FB I forgot to mention in my other post that XG & XH's were available with a 1 tonne option & wheels with more dish than an AU.


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#3 Posted : Thursday, 23 August 2007 1:33:05 AM(UTC)
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I just measured under my mate's ED Fairmont & got 1330 between the inner walls of the tyres. Theoretically these should give you 1380 on an AU axle. Fairmont alloys have more backspacing than the steel Falcon wheels though.

What you are after is mor

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#4 Posted : Thursday, 23 August 2007 5:16:32 AM(UTC)
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yep.. no doubt about it..!!! jim,, my poor old brain is spinning!!
but what i need is a steel wheel,,[rated] with a further negative offset, of 60mm, each side?
this should give me 1500mm in between wheels,, i hope,?
i dont think this all that much?
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#5 Posted : Sunday, 26 August 2007 6:51:07 AM(UTC)
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I'm pretty sure Au's run the same ratio's as EL which are 3.08:1 and 3.45:1

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#6 Posted : Sunday, 26 August 2007 10:59:30 AM(UTC)
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thanx xb,
I cant remember who told me, but i am sure someone said some au,s had a 2.92,? anyways, 3.08:1 should be okie dokie?
I wonder whether the el axle was the same as the au, strenght wise? did they have a EL one tonner? or ute, rated at 1 ton??
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#7 Posted : Monday, 3 September 2007 8:56:11 AM(UTC)
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If you try and widen your track by about 60 mm each side by using wheels with a different back spacing, you stand a good chance of snapping the ends off the axles. Plenty of street rodders have discovered this the hard way even with heavy
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#8 Posted : Tuesday, 4 September 2007 3:12:19 AM(UTC)
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Brian. What Fallingbear is considering is using an AU-BF Falcon axle because these have the centre of the wheel well within the line of mounting & earlier up to EL wheels which have close to zero offset but will widen the AU axles track by an inch or two.

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#9 Posted : Tuesday, 4 September 2007 5:15:17 AM(UTC)
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He was talking about increasing the track by 60 mm each side. A 15 inch steel AU wheel has a back spacing of 130 mm. A BA 16 inch is 135 mm. I would imagine anything later than BA is the same. To get 60 mm each side on an AU you are going to ne
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#10 Posted : Thursday, 6 September 2007 12:46:35 AM(UTC)
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FallingBear if Brian is right I would reconsider doing the AU setup.

Really you have a couple of safe options either fit a VN/VP TH700 overdrive box & live relatively happily with your low ratio diff or try to source a 9" from something very large l

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Maybe try rims off a XH tradesman ute. Have tried them on a au 1 tonner & they widened the track
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#12 Posted : Thursday, 11 October 2007 8:38:40 AM(UTC)
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hey yall,
brian jim etc,
been awhile, been busy building 5th bedroom in house, anyways, back to conumdrums, brian you said cant really go deep dish, cause of structual integrity of axle?? but how did we do it on earlier models???
also ba, au, el, cars
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#13 Posted : Thursday, 11 October 2007 10:06:04 AM(UTC)
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People simply bolted deeply dished wheels onto just about everything years ago and many snapped the ends off the axles. This is why we have rules governing wheel modifications these days.

You might save yourself a lot of work by discu
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#14 Posted : Saturday, 13 October 2007 4:54:41 AM(UTC)
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hey brian, jim,
I understand what you have said about wheels fitted out from the end of the axle, and yes a 8inch wheel, deep dish, will put extra stress on the end of the axle, but having had many cars over the years, all with mags and crommies with th
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