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#41 Posted : Wednesday, 12 September 2018 8:48:39 PM(UTC)
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Thanks guys, typical though and rare as no doubt. Will put that one on the wish list....
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#42 Posted : Friday, 14 September 2018 6:08:27 PM(UTC)
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Hi HQ 350, I noticed in your last Picture that the Muncie Console has a Hump at the side of it. Does yours have this, i'm interested to know. Thanks.
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#43 Posted : Saturday, 15 September 2018 7:17:12 AM(UTC)
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morsesworld our hq 350 is TBar so no hump other is column auto.

There would only be approx. 300 consuls with the hump made.
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#44 Posted : Sunday, 16 September 2018 10:08:01 AM(UTC)
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There were two types of "humped" consoles...early flat top one with seat belt pockets, and the later type with storage bin but no pockets. This was due to the later cars having inertia reel seatbelts with fixed stalks.
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#45 Posted : Sunday, 16 September 2018 11:11:40 AM(UTC)
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There were two types of "humped" consoles...early flat top one with seat belt pockets, and the later type with storage bin but no pockets. This was due to the later cars having inertia reel seatbelts with fixed stalks.


Given how few 350/Muncies were made in 1973/4, the later type would be ultra rare.

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#46 Posted : Sunday, 16 September 2018 11:53:45 AM(UTC)
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Is there a set period when the HQ consoles changed from Flat top to Bin type ? My Hq still has flat top and is 19/06/73 build ? Thanks Mark.
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#47 Posted : Sunday, 16 September 2018 1:10:44 PM(UTC)
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Is there a set period when the HQ consoles changed from Flat top to Bin type ? My Hq still has flat top and is 19/06/73 build ? Thanks Mark.


As with many items in those days, stocks of the older ones were used up before the new one was fitted. This would varied from plant to plant.

As Detective has said the later console was introduced because the little seatbelt bucket pockets were no longer required after the inertia reel belts with stalks were added. I'm sure that there are plenty of inertia reel cars (with stalks) that were factory-fitted with 'pocket' style console.


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#48 Posted : Sunday, 16 September 2018 1:48:20 PM(UTC)
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For the Gear Knob you could look at the Rare Spares web under "Gear Knob" to see if they suit your needs.
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#49 Posted : Sunday, 16 September 2018 2:22:03 PM(UTC)
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The plain, round Muncie gear knob has the same "textured" feel and appearance as the console. The differing part numbers may be to do with having the gearshift pattern inlaid ??

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#50 Posted : Sunday, 16 September 2018 7:15:00 PM(UTC)
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Thanks, I'll need to try to find someone with an original gear knob to understand exactly what I'm chasing. I want everything on the car as close as I possibly can to original. The car I'm restoring is an extra special one and deserves to be as it was.
Call me crazy but I love the challenge.
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#51 Posted : Sunday, 16 September 2018 8:16:25 PM(UTC)
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Call me crazy but I love the challenge.


I wouldn't call it crazy & I love the passion.

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#52 Posted : Sunday, 16 September 2018 9:08:13 PM(UTC)
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Thanks Dr Terry. Probably going to need expert help from the likes of yourself over time.
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#53 Posted : Monday, 17 September 2018 10:40:53 PM(UTC)
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So trying to make a list of the rare HQ 350 specific stuff I need to look out for, I'm missing tailshaft back, including motor. Just the Aus stuff not the correct part number replacement stuff that I can get from the states. I have an 11QU block.
So off the top of my head...

*Console hump (can cut it into repo console)
*Radiator?
*Tailshaft(debatable)
*clutch linkages
*shifter stick
*gear knob
*accelerator linkages?
*carby correct part number

Anything else Aus specific?
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#54 Posted : Tuesday, 18 September 2018 2:59:29 AM(UTC)
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Muncie in all HQ are easily recognisable IIRC.
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#55 Posted : Tuesday, 18 September 2018 5:55:26 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: HK1837 Go to Quoted Post
Muncie in all HQ are easily recognisable IIRC.


You've lost me. Are they part number specific like carby?
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#56 Posted : Tuesday, 18 September 2018 7:16:06 AM(UTC)
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coil =lucas/bosch

alternator = lucas/bosch

regulator = Lucas/bosch

waterpump = McKinnon

Clutch fan (A/C) = Eaton

power steering pump = A/C


this is some of the larger parts.

Lucas parts are usually on A/C hq 350's.

Coil is Lucas if sitting vertical,bosch horizontal.

there is a large number of smaller clip's that support plug leads and wiring that is also just HQ 350.
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coil =lucas/bosch

alternator = lucas/bosch

regulator = Lucas/bosch

waterpump = McKinnon

Clutch fan (A/C) = Eaton

power steering pump = A/C


this is some of the larger parts.

Lucas parts are usually on A/C hq 350's.

Coil is Lucas if sitting vertical,bosch horizontal.

there is a large number of smaller clip's that support plug leads and wiring that is also just HQ 350.


The power steering pump should be a Saginaw, the same as they use in the US.

Most of the a/cond parts should be either AC Delco or Harrison.

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#58 Posted : Tuesday, 18 September 2018 8:21:59 AM(UTC)
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Muncie in all HQ are easily recognisable IIRC.


You've lost me. Are they part number specific like carby?


They have certain distinguishing features, don’t know exactly what but I know they are there.

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#59 Posted : Tuesday, 18 September 2018 2:54:38 PM(UTC)
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Well lucky it's not an air conditioned car I guess.

Anyone know more about the muncie gearbox before I go and waste a fortune on the wrong one?
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#60 Posted : Tuesday, 18 September 2018 3:44:04 PM(UTC)
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The muncie g/box is from a big block car, fine spline input and the larger t400 output, The tailshaft uses the larger 1 tonner type uni's the diff has the larger flange to suit,They also have a specific gearbox crossmember and reverse light switch, do you have the steel floor hump?
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