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#1 Posted : Sunday, 11 October 2009 2:41:19 AM(UTC)
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can antone tell me when u get a blue slip for an uregersted car do they require just the new engine number or do they need casting number etc.thanks going to restamp vn block with hq number to avoid enginerrs cert any help thanks
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#2 Posted : Sunday, 11 October 2009 2:56:44 AM(UTC)
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Ummmm any Federal Police investigating fraud, you have a good lead here. The only help I can give you is to convince you not to do it, as you are looking at a federal offence.

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#3 Posted : Sunday, 11 October 2009 2:58:34 AM(UTC)
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ive never heard of a casting number being checked, id doubt the plonkers at the rta even know they exist
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#4 Posted : Sunday, 11 October 2009 3:02:01 AM(UTC)
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You most likely wont have a blue slip problem unless you get a switched on inspection station. Problem may come later if RTA pull you over. Best bet is to rebuild the bottome end of an early 308 and bolt the VN top end on.

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#5 Posted : Sunday, 11 October 2009 3:21:08 AM(UTC)
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I assume that the blue slip guy wont pick up that the block is VN not HQ/J/X right ? If its a HQ, they take V8s upto 350. So whats the problem then ? Register as is. Or is it the emission stuff thats gonna clobber the plans ?

Did you ever ask the RTA anonymously ? Could save you a lot of pain and $$$$.

Probs you face may be:
(1) A blue slip bloke may pickup up a QT/QR number isnt supposed to be on a VN block. You need Engr Cert etc.
(2) If you get past these issues it will be interesting to see how you go IF you pick a number already known, and registered in NSW. The DRIVES system will pick it up immediately you hand over your papers. You can then expect a call from the Police as to why you are forging engine numbers !

Engine swaps and old blocks can be such a pain. Have fun....and good luck.
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#6 Posted : Sunday, 11 October 2009 3:28:43 AM(UTC)
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thanks for the help rta are the fraudsters with there bulls*** charges not me
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#7 Posted : Sunday, 11 October 2009 3:35:06 AM(UTC)
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forgot to say i own a red 253 motor just looking at this option as i dont want to run cats and i have to cut tunnel for box rta say if i use vn block need eng cert if i use red 253 just need blue slip .$$$cheaper and easyer as i like to all work myself as i have a small budget .each to there own i say
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#8 Posted : Sunday, 11 October 2009 10:49:15 AM(UTC)
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Ok...as I thought. Its a pity RTA laws are a little harsh. Old car eg 1971 HQ with new 1992 motor, means motor must comply with 1992 engine compliance emissions. Put the old 253 in, and no probs !!They sure make it hard dont they ?
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#9 Posted : Sunday, 11 October 2009 11:26:23 PM(UTC)
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besides all other problems be aware of insurance problems you may face in case of a fatal accident you may be liable for damages etc maybe jail time as you have misrepresented whats really in the car but this is at worst case senario
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#10 Posted : Tuesday, 13 October 2009 5:57:10 AM(UTC)
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worked for an inspection staion & yes some do inspect the engine No against the cast date, to insure it is correct with the build of the car, there is even a booklet with build nos provided by rta (engine No from 4/71 to 3/73 QTXXX to QTXXX), also if the engine No looks too new, faint or suspect, we would check the cast date & forward the cars details onto the local blue boys.
once had a XF come in all prettied up, fresh paint ect, if you know your factory stampings, ford Nos are all over the place, as they are done by hand, the car in question had its enine No in a perfect straight line & were the wrong size stamp by one mm, turned out the guy had swapped the engine out of a wreck which he purchased legit, but wanted to keep the car original, so re stamped the donor block, in the end cost him 2 weeks without the car, a re test fee, 2 hours being interviewed by the plods & a $750 fine.
as Byron said, use the early bottom end & late top, might be a bit more costly at first but atleast its legit.

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#11 Posted : Tuesday, 13 October 2009 7:42:39 AM(UTC)
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quote:
Originally posted by kanks
thanks for the help rta are the fraudsters with there bulls*** charges not me


Come on kanks, this is a wind up, surely? The rules, that you intend to disregard, are in place to ensure that everyone else is looked after on the roads as well as yourself.

Actually, no, phuck it, Im gunna back you on this kanks. Dont worry about silly engineering approval for any power upgrade mods or the like either. Im slippin a Merlin air plane engine in my EH ute, no need to consult the rego branch. Im on a budget, theyll understand when it all turns to sh1t & someone looses an eye.

Do it right or forget about it kanks.

If it was cheap & easy, everyone would be doin it.



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#12 Posted : Thursday, 15 October 2009 9:01:48 AM(UTC)
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whatever didnt think it was such a big isue a holden block is a holden block will visit an engineer this week
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#13 Posted : Thursday, 15 October 2009 10:20:08 AM(UTC)
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the idea of checking engine and id numbers is to protect mugs like you when someone steals your precious ride and and turns it into midnight spares.there is some chance it will be found again. not much, i admit.
making the emmissions comply with standards means we may have air to breathe for a little longer. fumes from unleaded petrol which has not gone through a catalytic convertor is about 6 times as toxic as air which has, and a cat does not affect performance or economy unless it is faulty.
you can pick up secondhand cats for a few bucks, certainly a lot cheaper than the rest of the conversion.
just buy a Hq or whatever block, resleeve it if you have to, not that expensive and use the VN upper parts.
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