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#1 Posted : Thursday, 22 September 2011 5:48:43 AM(UTC)
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Hey , anyone out there know what the Kw rating is on the 6 litre highway pursuit cars ? I just got a low mile '06 one and it is unbelievable...sits you back in the seat like nothing I have driven before , even my 427 Camaro would be a close match but it just smokes up.
Do i own a Mustang....you have to be joking ???
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#2 Posted : Thursday, 22 September 2011 9:43:28 AM(UTC)
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If it is an L98 6.0 litre, I would assume it is about 330KW
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#3 Posted : Thursday, 22 September 2011 9:00:30 PM(UTC)
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Factory 260-270 kW

9C1 means a number of additional options related to being a police car, some desireable such as FE2 and LSD, but also wiring, lighting, etc.

There is no power or performance difference.
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#4 Posted : Thursday, 22 September 2011 10:44:01 PM(UTC)
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quote:
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Factory 260-270 kW

9C1 means a number of additional options related to being a police car, some desireable such as FE2 and LSD, but also wiring, lighting, etc.

There is no power or performance difference.

wow! thats a big diference. one says 330 & other says 270???
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#5 Posted : Friday, 23 September 2011 12:05:39 AM(UTC)
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Reminds me of a party I went to back in the 90's. guy there was telling me that he just took possession of a VN V8 Highway pursuit car, he leans in real close and tells me not to tell anyone, but the cops had forgotten to take the chip out of his car and that it would break traction at 100kph.

What can ya do but smile and nod.....
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#6 Posted : Friday, 23 September 2011 11:16:43 AM(UTC)
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As GeeR says....stock as a rock in KW but thrashed to the end of its life.
Mate work on cop cars and they got treated very well...NOT!
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#7 Posted : Saturday, 24 September 2011 6:13:39 PM(UTC)
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It will be quick as it would have "copped" a bit during its running in stage.
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#8 Posted : Saturday, 24 September 2011 10:04:01 PM(UTC)
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oooooooooooooow with that......please dont post on the jokes thread cloudy!!!!

:-)

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Stepping stone or stumbling block...your choice
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#9 Posted : Monday, 26 September 2011 5:54:14 PM(UTC)
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quote:
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It will be quick as it would have "copped" a bit during its running in stage.


Mate of mine has one. He says it handles like a pig. He doesn't care though, he bought it for the grunt.
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#10 Posted : Monday, 26 September 2011 6:39:51 PM(UTC)
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Boom tish...

we'll all need some oinkment for split sides if this keeps up.

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#11 Posted : Tuesday, 27 September 2011 4:42:35 AM(UTC)
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Oddly enough is does smell like doughnus and coffee inside it.....

This car never saw highway use as it was a high ups personal to and from work car (reading the books was an eye opener) and I have driven standard 6.0L cars...this one will wipe the floor with them. Just thought one of you might have had an idea thats all.
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#12 Posted : Tuesday, 27 September 2011 8:47:21 PM(UTC)
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Not saying these 2006/7 VZ 6.0 V8 cars aren't good things. They certainly fly when you get stuck in and compared to an LS1 or even the HSV LS2 of the same period are better if you plan to tune and modify (particularly the heads are thought a better starting point).

But despite what a lot of people think, there is no police tune or 'chip', so unless this particular VZ L76 - after it was offloaded by Plod - has had an aftermarket 'tune' (or the other common mod that makes them feel very quick - diff gear change from a manual car) it's just like any other V8 of that year.

A 6.0 VZ sedan will only be a L76.

L98 and L76 are basically the same engine, notable difference being L76 has the 'displacement on demand' aka 'active fuel management' or AFM valvetrain (and some other differences such as valley cover, oil pump, larger capacity sump).

All VZ V8 built in 2006 have the L76 6.0 litre motor (before that they had LS1). While the AFM hardware is present, it is not 'activated' in the engine management.

VE V8 sedan was released with the L98 in 2006 - but some VZ non-sedan models continued, so they got the L98 too.

(VE L76 happens in 2009 when DOD/AFM was activated on automatic V8s, i.e. manual VE have an L98).

So, factory power claims were:

2006 VZ sedan L76 260 kW
2007 VZ sedan finished, non-sedans get L98 270 kW

which have been backed up as believable by dyno runs on new cars over the years. Dynos have also shown that some engines are a little better than others, maybe you've also picked up a particularly good one.
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#13 Posted : Tuesday, 27 September 2011 9:46:47 PM(UTC)
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There is no gaurantee that it is still standard is there? I am sure in 6 years that it could have been modified.
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#14 Posted : Friday, 13 June 2014 7:39:13 AM(UTC)
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I have one of the 2 05 prototype VZs that made the road. Quicker than VF SS as I bought her, and more, 1st owner after HSE. Took a long time to find a cam that wouldn't wreck the package.

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#15 Posted : Friday, 13 June 2014 4:25:33 PM(UTC)
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+1 for it having either diff gears or an aftermarket tune, or both.
They are common mods for these cars. After they were retired from service & auctioned off, they were very popular amongst those with a bit of cash to afford them, who wanted budget grunt, as it was one of the only ways left to get a V8 in a base model (ie lighter weight) Commodore - much like the early 80s. To walk into Holden you had to look at an SV8, SS or Berlina as a minimum to get a V8.

There's no way of knowing if it's had a tune done unless you have the equipment to get into the PCM - they reflash the tune in the original PCM, and there's no outward signs of any disturbance (except of the peace & quiet in the neighbourhood).
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#16 Posted : Saturday, 14 June 2014 5:16:28 AM(UTC)
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As mine was bought from Holden Special engineering I know there were no aftermarket mods done. She's certainly light which is clearly some of her acceleration. 4spd Auto that seems to be tuned for a crisper shift. Engine seems to be tuned differently, but as has been said, can't be sure without hooking to a computer. Cam wasn't massive, could have been SS, but truck has been suggested. I still have it somewhere, maybe it has a part number. When rebuilt I found chunkier than ls2 rods inside (think they were 5.3l but found listed for an ls6 clubsport) and 3 bolt cam but she was an 05 prototype. She was also very very well balanced, but I guess they all are. Don't know about what's standard as bouncing off the limiter is frowned apon by car yards, but 6500rpm rev limiter and no speed limiter.

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#17 Posted : Saturday, 14 June 2014 9:43:45 PM(UTC)
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I would say it's just been floged hard from new and a good engine.

My vy ss is std but for the speed limiter removed but it hoses of my mates VZ 5.7l and his is maf less tuned big air snork 3.9 diff.
He can get me in 1st and 2ed but come 3rd on all the way to 250 kmh he just has not got it and i have hosed him off that many times i can't remember.
His feels fast to drive but it's just the gearing and his will to 6500.
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#18 Posted : Friday, 18 July 2014 10:36:19 AM(UTC)
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As for wear and tear...makes a difference, but it's not the answer. I rebuild "Lacey" so she's tight again. Upgrade as of now from faster than VF SS, to faster than Walkinshaw VF 6.2l clubby/it's driver (without prestall/rev vs drag launch). I now run a stage one high tractability cam a little fatter than stock LS2, not enough to cream a car like that on it's own. Stock L92 heads, LS3 intake and Trottle Body and LS7 injectors give the engine more potential than LS2, but no advantage against LS3.
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#19 Posted : Friday, 18 July 2014 10:50:47 AM(UTC)
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Not bad for engine I rebuilt myself, with a cam I spent days studying, thinking and searching for, and an exhaust I welded upyself, still using enough of the prototype to have #3. still stamped on it, stock headers and cats on pursuit rims and stock turanzas.
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