Same thing here -ABS,TRACTION CONTROL, ENGINE, AIR BAG and OIL PRESSURE warning lights come on. along wit a wee tune. replaced the black box on ABS MODULE (removing 6 trox screws)and lossened the side nuts to lift it up slightly.
Cant help wondering why it was intermittent though. Later found the alternator wiring melted together (small white and brown wires from black reg box). wonder if the uneven voltage was cauing this. Cleaned up the big wire as well. No problems since

Thanks to everyones comments re the warning lights on the VT and the apparent loss of functionality of the ABS, air con, temp guage, cruise control, air bag, oil pressure light, traction control assocoated with the ABS Module fault. Here are some more tips to fix the problem if you are a non-mechanic like me-1)You will need a Torx T20 size screwdriver(anything else is to wide to access the 6 Torx screws, you can get these from a "Tool Mart" type of shop); I found it easier to remove the battery to access the bottom Torx screws, be careful not to round the head of the 6 Torx Screws which look like allan key type of heads;2)there are 2 electrical cables to undo-a)one thick one on the top of the ABS Module (at the 3 oclock position, pinch and slide the retaining clip towards the engine block,this will release the thick cable from the ABS Module) and b) one thin cable located on the bottom of the ABS Module(with a flat screwdriver lever off the plug downwards towards the ground-you should expose the orange crinkly internal sleeve of this plug as you lever it off.


The advice re the slighlyly lifting up of the ABS Module together with the ABS pump (the thing it is screwed onto where the 6 thin pipes (brake fluid lines)feed into, is spot on).

As the car wont start when you disconnect all this stuff, you need to arrange for the delivery of the reconditioned ABS Module (cost me $300) before hand. The automotive electrical reconditioning shop needs the part number which is located on the white piece of paper stuck to the bottom of your ABS Module.When I got mine out, I advised the recon shop and they kindly delivered me the correct ABS Module for my car.

This is basically it...you can save at least $600 doing it yourself.


I rang a dealer only to be told that it would cost me $220 just for an analysis!!

PS. If you are around the Victoria Park area in Perth you are welcome to borrow my Torx screwdriver as I probably will never use it again!

Hi,
I have recently purchased a VT Series 2 SS through a non holden dealership. My airbag light has just started coming on with the audible 3 tone beep.
When questioned about this they admitted they had this problem with it before and said they had it sent to Holden and fixed up but it is obviously a reocurring problem. The car is still under the statutory warranty so i am taking it back.
How can i be sure that this will be fixed? I do not want it happening again once the warranty is done with.

Cheers

and also the power button isnt working and the cooling fan is always on an i hav no temperature guage.

In Ref: to my last post I have now found out some more info...well sort of.
The only time the "TRAC OFF" comes on by its own is when the A/C is on. Drove the car around for a full week without aircon and not once did it come on, or when i turned it on i could always turn it off.
Now as soon as the rough week was up tried the aircon and boom sitting at the lights and it came on all by ones self. Tried again next day by sitting at lights in N and still does it?????
Who knows

Lads just an update, tried to pull out alternator but found out little too late that theres bugger all room to get it out unless you remove radiator or headers off alternator side. But since car is running marginally better and i think when i get the new one in should be good. Also TRAC off hasnt reared its ugly head yet.....fingers crossed

One thing i forgot to mention. You might want to check your (auto models only) that your throttle cable from the throttle relaxer that runs thru the firewall hasn't been jammed up or has a tight turn in it. Sounds weird but my car used to jump as soon as you touched the throttle, checked the T/B by taking it off cleaning. Still jumped with slight throttle. Checked throttle relaxer still couldn't see anything. Checked cable from relaxer to foot pedal and it had a very tight turn just near the brake booster (was wedged in behind a clip). As soon as i went to move the cable it sprung out a little away from the booster. Started the car and the throttle hasn't never been soooo smooth. Been talking to my tuner and others and this could have been the problem that was the infamous "TRAC OFF" problems cause. Apparently the throttle relaxer was having a bit of an arguement with the cable which over a short time would throw the "TRAC OFF" and into limp mode. When you added the aircon to the equation it brought it on very quickly due to the slight change in RPM. So i'd run a quick check over this bad boy just to make sure.....could save you some bucks. P.s if you have had a tune done then you might need you idle adjusted slightly, and NO the idle reset/learn/pcm reset won't fix it as it has been adjusted not re-learned.
Adam

Might want to check out your fan relays also. I ended up replacing 3 - both fan and i think the ecpm or pcm relay cant remember. One of the greyish coloured ones had a brownish areas on it where the relay has started to short. Could be something worth chasing. Think the relay (genuine) are about $11 for the most and one of them is $12 could be a chaeaper fix.
Adam

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Originally posted by CleverButStupid
Read this first, before you let Forum Engineers give you bad advice and waste your hard earned money when it comes to

"ABS" faults. They seem to always say replace the ABS unit - wow! another $600 wasted for nothing. From these forums and

talking to mechanics about "ABS" faults, it rarely is the ABS.

I learnt the hard way - I followed the advice and replaced the ABS unit - same exact fault still there. Like arnie (this

post) mine comes on when the small? engine fan comes on. The fault codes say Low Speed fan and Theft-Deterrent (also means data fault). So can someone (maybe not a Forum Engineer) pls tell me the best place to look to fix a data fault that seems to involve one of the electronic fans?

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This particular 'Forum Engineer' has not just said replace the ABS module when any fault emerges.

I've owned & run an automotive workshop for 34 years. If I 'just replaced' things without doing some initial diagnosis, I would have been out of business years ago. As part of my business I sell a lot of automotive electronic parts to the trade & as such, often end up advising them how to approach a particular fault. Many owners & technicians want a 'quick fix', they want me to diagnose (over the phone) a fault which I haven't checked out first hand, on a car I've never seen before, yet they want me to tell them how to fix it or what to replace.

My standard answer to such requests is to do some proper diagnosis first & that you don't repair a car by just 'throwing parts at it' & hoping for the best.

After decades of doing this there are some faults which you can be 99% confident of knowing the fix without seeing the car, but some sensible verbal diagnosis is still required even then. If you read the last 10 pages on this topic there are many different symptoms mentioned & no one (especially me) has suggested to replace the ABS module as a fix in every case.

The simple facts are (for VT to VY), if many indicator lights become illuminated & some other symptoms emerge (e.g. erratic gauge readings, a/cond operation, auto trans shift patterns issues) the probable cause IS the ABS module. But you must do a few checks first. If you have access to a scanner, or know somebody who has, check the fault codes. If there is no communication, then 'case closed', fit another module (around $350, not $600 BTW). If you have other issues like strange cooling fan operation or ABS or Trac lights coming on, do some further diagnosis, it is probably NOT the module & may be something cheaper &/or simpler. Another very simple check, requiring no fancy equipment at all is to unplug the ABS & then drive the car to check everything else. Sure the ABS & Trac lights will be on, but everything else should return to normal. If it doesn't your problem is NOT in the ABS module.

As I said, if you can communicate with the ABS module it is most likely OK. A cooling fan issue is more likely to be a body control module or even the engine ECU, but as I keep saying get someone who knows to diagnose the problem first & don't just do what someone on an internet forum has suggested.

Dr Terry

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Hi guys, I have the same problem with my VT and did as you suggested (disconnected the ABS) and nothing changed, none of the lights went out and the fan started running full pelt. Any other advice?? Cant afford to spend money on another module if it isnt the problem....... Cheers

Kimba