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#1 Posted : Monday, 12 October 2020 5:46:15 PM(UTC)
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Hi Guys.

I'm just putting some finishing touches to my latest book.

It is as yet untitled, it was to be 70 Years of Holden, but was extended for the final 2 years & 72 years just hasn't got the right 'ring' to it. Anyway enough of that.

In each model series I have each variant with is price, along with the various engine & transmission options also listed.

I've got most series covered, but I am difficulty finalising both LX & UC Toranas.

Strangely Redbook & the like are very inaccurate, so I've found that press releases & other official GM-H literature are the only reliable sources.

Is there anyone on the forum who can help out with any of this type of info.

By the way the prices need to be RRP @ release.

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#2 Posted : Monday, 12 October 2020 8:22:49 PM(UTC)
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I think they stopped putting them in motoring mags due to the constant price increases, maybe check newspapers.
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#3 Posted : Tuesday, 13 October 2020 2:44:00 PM(UTC)
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Just checked in car mags of the day and they show RRP . I have a large collection of Aussy motoring magazines if prices from them will help you. Thanks Mark.
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#4 Posted : Tuesday, 13 October 2020 4:53:09 PM(UTC)
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Do they show RRP or “as tested”.l? Press test cars were most often optioned with cloth trim, different tyres and other similar stuff.

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For whatever reason the prices listed in magazines of the day & Redbook etc. vary drastically from reality.

Some include delivery charges etc. Also as HK1837 has said many are prices "as tested"which include many options.

The only reliable info that I've gathered is from official GM-H press releases & dealer price lists.

Once again they have to be at release date for consistency. During the inflationary days of the 1970s, it was common to have 4 or 5 price hikes per year.

A good example is the LH GPak in 1975. The 1st edition (Feb) was $3,088 RRP, the 2nd edition (Nov 75) had an RRP of $5,058 !! These 2 cars had identical equipment levels.

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#6 Posted : Tuesday, 13 October 2020 9:27:07 PM(UTC)
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Look up Pinterest and Flickr they have some old prices in adds and such at times I have seen.

I thought that you did well with the price list in your 60 years of Holden covering the LX UC Torana's.

Yep we can see that the G Pak price went wild in them years of inflation were out of control. 4/3/1974 202 SL/R at $3915 and a 2/1975 G Pak $3881 and a 5/11/1975 G Pak at $5058. I think the first batch of G Pak may of been trip to do with fishing for a market and the second batch was a reaping what was sowed with the first more so, because it's more than the inflation rate at the time.

One may have want to look at the inflation rate to get a handle on price rising and company's they have increased every 3 months is the norm business practice.

I also has seen on Uniquecarsandparts and have a look as they have many old brochure adds with the price, some are displayed with tax and some are not. go to the Site map a lot of such info their Terry.

Dr Terry Bebbington's Complete encyclopedia of all Holden models 1948 to the last ? may do.

I have to say your work on the 60 years of Holden was the best by far that I have ever come across.

I have been looking into the Australian Valiant of late and I seen one bloke and his wife has the very first Australian made Valiant and also the Last one ever built. maybe a Valiant book and a Ford book in the same light as the Holden that you have done would be excellent.

Such would deserve the title as, Sir Dr Terry Bebbington in my books.
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#7 Posted : Wednesday, 14 October 2020 11:14:39 AM(UTC)
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.. had a look in any of the 'HOLDEN HERITAGE" books published by GMH??

my recollection (mine are all in storage in the garage) is they state RRP for each model*

or THE HOLDEN STORY? Published by GMH Corporate Relations dept when VB Commodore
was released (my copy handed to me as an employee at the time, also in storage)




* but for some strange reason, have no info on Geminis
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Sunbird sedan $5565
Sunbird SL sedan $5955
Sunbird SL Hatchback $6305
Torana S sedan $5962
Torana SL sedan $6650
Torana SL hatchback $7000

SMH 19/3/78 P118

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Found some LX stuff, unfortunately they are estimates so this indicates GMH did not release the prices tot eh press on the release day of 24/2/76.

Melbourne motor show stuff might be of interest here as it started just after sales date of 4/3/76.
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#10 Posted : Thursday, 15 October 2020 5:34:04 AM(UTC)
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Wheels 1978 May 78 LX June 78 UC
Torana -s- 173 -3man $5774 $5961
SL-173- 3man $6352 $6650
SLR-202- 4man $6962 N/A
Sunbird 1900-4man $5460 $5575
SL 1900-4man N/A $5955
Hatchbacks
Torana SL 202-4man $6713 $7000 ( 173 )
SS 202-4man $7198 N/A
Sunbird 1900-4man $5810 $5925
SL 1900-4man N/A $6305
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#11 Posted : Thursday, 15 October 2020 7:37:58 AM(UTC)
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Hi could anyone please help me identify my inlet manifold that is on my 253.
Casting numbers are 9205355.
Any help is much appreciated .
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Originally Posted by: JaseBNZ Go to Quoted Post
Hi could anyone please help me identify my inlet manifold that is on my 253.
Casting numbers are 9205355.
Any help is much appreciated .
Thanks
Jason


red or blue 253?

I suspect blue .. with that pn

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Its a red but has had a 4bbl added to it when rebuilt so manifold changed , which is why I am trying to identify
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Have since found out that later model commodore heads and intake were fitted.
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Motor Manual Dec 1978
UC sunbird
Sedan $5200 4sp $5699 auto
hatch $5523 $6022

UC Torana
2.8L $5831 4sp $6330
hatch $6739 $7238


Wheels Aug 1980
Sunbird sedan 4sp $6206
SL 4sp $6666
SLE 4SP $7346
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Originally Posted by: JaseBNZ Go to Quoted Post
Its a red but has had a 4bbl added to it when rebuilt so manifold changed , which is why I am trying to identify



I asked.. as you are one digit short for a GMH part number

one genuine manifold (one of many by the way ) has a part number 92015955
so you can see why I comment so

Is there are any other identifiers?



ps... a 5955 manifold looks like this




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#17 Posted : Thursday, 15 October 2020 1:21:23 PM(UTC)
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smitty, just to save you digging into your filing cabinet, there are no RRP,s in the “Holden Story” There are RRP,s in the “Heritage” books for most cars but not for Toranas, ?? ( not in my copies anyway ). AL.

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#18 Posted : Friday, 16 October 2020 11:51:24 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Smitty2 Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: JaseBNZ Go to Quoted Post
Its a red but has had a 4bbl added to it when rebuilt so manifold changed , which is why I am trying to identify



I asked.. as you are one digit short for a GMH part number

one genuine manifold (one of many by the way ) has a part number 92015955
so you can see why I comment so

Is there are any other identifiers?



ps... a 5955 manifold looks like this






15 years ago Guest had this intake manifold PN 92015955 it is a VK HDT one. they have no ribs on the floor.
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Originally Posted by: gmholdman Go to Quoted Post
smitty, just to save you digging into your filing cabinet, there are no RRP,s in the “Holden Story” There are RRP,s in the “Heritage” books for most cars but not for Toranas, ?? ( not in my copies anyway ). AL.


.. sweet! thanks for that
(was going to go digging over the weekend)

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#20 Posted : Sunday, 18 October 2020 10:33:56 AM(UTC)
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I had a quick look through a few GMH Accelerator mags and found these prices.
The wording in most cases is the car "sells for" . . . .

Nov 1975 Sunbird = $4,964
Dec 1978 standard Commodore = $6,513
Dec 1978 SL Commodore $7,813
Dec 1978 SL/E Commodore = $10,513

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