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Ok. Following is in relation to my previous post (page 59/60):
I was looking through some other forums and noticed someone referring to the word "Top.", which I now notice the word on my current HZs plates.
So the 6cyl panel van I scraped years ago must of had on the plate:
Paint. 568-8769
Top. 568-0246
Did they make panel vans with different colour tops?? What colours are these codes?? Am I missing a couple of digits??
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TOP on the body plate, refers to the colour of the roof on two-tone cars. Normally Belmonts & commercials cannot be ordered in two-tone. However, for special fleet orders they will do it. Yours appears to be just such a car. The 8769 (body colour) is a fleet colour called Light Orange, while 0246 is an old white from the FB/EK era called Snowcrest White. Iv seen Snowcrest used on the roofs of a lot of two-tone fleet cars.
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Hi
Im looking at buying what is said to be a genuine HX Sandman. Ive gone through the tags and it looks good except a couple of things:
ADR plate is stamped 9/76 however on the long skinny plate it has a "G" which indicates 1977 according to the Sandman Owners site.
Also it has an Adelaide Body Plate while the other 2 are Sydney which is discussed on the monaroparts site. Does anyone know why Sydney vans had Adelaide Body Plates?
Tag info:
HX8WM70
______-A
1916-18V
568-17777
L31 M41 GV4
VIN: 8M70TGH9_____X
9/76
AHX_____S
1950
seating cap: 2
The 3 vehicle specific numbers Ive blanked out do not match. On my HZ Kingswood van (Brisbane built) the number on the body tag matches the numbers on the vin tag???
Any help would be greatly appreciated
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Its a Sandman, and its a 1977 model. The Slate black trim is the giveaway (18V). Very rare Sandman too being a 308 TH400. Does it have factory air? Most L31 M41 HX Sandmans I have come across have been Overlanders. Also has a 3.36 diff, normally M41 examples have 3.08. Its the same build configuration as my old HZ Ambulance pack 1-tonner.
All Sydney built HJ-HZ vans use Adelaide constructed bodies hence why they have the Adelaide BODY tag and why the VIN tag doesnt match. If it was a Sydney HZ ute the BODY number would be the PSN off the VIN plate as Sydney built its own ute bodies. Brisbane constucted their own van bodies hence why your Kingswood van has the PSN as the BODY number.
The CHASSIS number that appears on the rails and on the ADR plate (ie AHX12345S) doesnt match any other numbers on any Holden from any plant, except maybe the very first HK from each plant MAY have had a chassis number of for example HK00001SS, a VIN of 80169KH500001 and a BODY number of 80169KR-00001-H5. Possible but probably unlikely.
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thanks for the quick reply. ill let you know how i go. cheers, martin Edited by user Monday, 13 October 2008 6:30:22 AM(UTC)
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This is a work mates HJ panelvan
just want to see if it is a sandman. He wanted me to find out for him . the guy he bought it off said it might be a sandman
some ones changed it to WB Statesman Caprice front & 350 chev 9inch
3/75 HJ Panelvan 2200 kg
Seating cap 2
Model HJ8WM70
Body No 345390B
Trim 1886 19V
Paint 568 15949
Eng L31 M21 GV4
8MTOTEH
The Van is yellow & has GTS white needle Dash,
thanks in advance fellas
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Its definitely not a Sandman if its a Brisbane build without XX7 or XU3 on the BODY plate..
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Thats what I thought being a Brisbane with no XX7.
they must of made V8 vans without all of them being sandmans . Its pretty close but eh
Ill tell him cheers Byron.
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There were a LOT more V8 vans and utes made that werent Sandmans than Sandmans. At a guess id say 10:1 at least. Just look at how many V8 tonners and V8 WBs there were for an indication.
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bryon. not sure if you got this one via email.
Holden hx panelvan
12/76 ahx 20064a
GVM 1950kg seating cap 2
Model: hx8w m 70
Body No: 220818-A
Trim: 1890-60A
Paint:568-15953
Eng: L32 Trans:M20 RR Axle.GV7
Vin: 8M70RGL569611X
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Hello Byron, I have van I would like you to check for me. Model HX 8 WM70 Body 221703A 1886-18V 568-15949 L32 M20 GV7 8M70RG J555375X 1/77 AHX04010 GVW1950 Seating Cap 2 Absinth Yellow 253 4 speed 2.78 Sandman ? Brian. Edited by user Saturday, 25 October 2008 6:44:00 AM(UTC)
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Yes its a HX Sandman. The Slate black (18V) trim is the key. Diff is 3.55.
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Originally posted by adam PERTH
bryon. not sure if you got this one via email.
Holden hx panelvan
12/76 ahx 20064a
GVM 1950kg seating cap 2
Model: hx8w m 70
Body No: 220818-A
Trim: 1890-60A
Paint:568-15953
Eng: L32 Trans:M20 RR Axle.GV7
Vin: 8M70RGL569611X
WANTED:
QR 662xxx
1984 WB oyster crashpad
1x15x8 Cheviot armoulite HQ
pair of 15" Dragway centrelines suit HQ
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quote: Yes its a HX Sandman... Thanks Byron. I was wondering if the chrome roof rack and tinted bubble window on the tailgate were GMH accessories or aftermarket. Also the colour of the needle in the dash for the HX . white or yellow, and does the centre console have a lift up lid or open compartment? Edited by user Saturday, 25 October 2008 9:55:14 PM(UTC)
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close, but no sandman.
being a brisbane build van, it should have XX7 or XU3 samped in the top RH corner of the body tag.
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fair enought. what is it then. being M70 its not a kingswood. could it be before they started stamping XX7 on the plates. i seen a few early HJs looking the same as my plate and late HJs with XX7. it has a full hood lining and the light swiches in the doors.
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quote:
Originally posted by T-DOG
HI BYRON
THANKS FOR YOUR HELP
yes the van has the rear hoodlining clips
and the courtesy light switches for the doors
also gts guards
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Hey All,
One of my mates picked up a Van a couple of weeks ago. Needing a hand with de coding the plates. They read:
MODEL-HX8WN70 XX7
BODY NO-421501B
TRIM-1914 18V
PAINT-568 17778
ENGINE-L31 TRANS-M21 RRAXLE-GV4
BUILD DATE-6/77 HX PANEL VAN-AHX 12762B
GVW-1950 KG SEATING CAP-2
Look forward to seeing what it is and what the original specs were.
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can any tell me if either one of these tags are sandman utes???
first one
HX8WN80
537082M
1888-60A
568-15951
8N80TFJ537082X
SECOND ONE
HJ8WN80
497637N
1888-64V
568-15951
8N80TFJ417637J
any help would be grateful
cheers jimmy
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