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#1 Posted : Monday, 19 September 2011 5:58:24 PM(UTC)
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g'day all, hope someone can steer me inthe right direction i have a 202 that has been done up but came with no flywheel. will the one of my 186 fit? if not will engine n/o tell me what to get, (i would like a heavy one if there is diffrent wts)it has a 12 port head will any other manifold fit.I need tourqe to tow boat not top speed will electric dizzy be worth fitting which year model's will fit. thank's markus
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#2 Posted : Monday, 19 September 2011 11:07:28 PM(UTC)
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If it was me I'd get a blue or black motor one as they have a bigger clutch (holes are wider out on the flywheel for a bigger pressure plate. For this particular application anyway.
For the dizzy any blue 6cyl motor or EFI black 6cyl. Will fit straight in but you need the coil as well, and bridge the start and run wires on the output side of the ignition switch.
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#3 Posted : Tuesday, 20 September 2011 4:09:55 AM(UTC)
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the electric dizzy is a great upgrade, i would defiantly recommend it

you'll have to use a relay for the power (to the dizzy) cause you'll need a full 12V, just use the yellow wire that's running the points dizzy for the trigger
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#4 Posted : Tuesday, 20 September 2011 4:24:04 AM(UTC)
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Dave, you don't need a relay, just do as I said with the bridge on the ignition switch.
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#5 Posted : Wednesday, 21 September 2011 3:17:16 AM(UTC)
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Dave, you don't need a relay, just do as I said with the bridge on the ignition switch.


yeah true, i find it easier to use a relay, both ways work, whichever way you find easiest i guess?
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#6 Posted : Thursday, 22 September 2011 7:06:24 AM(UTC)
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thank's guy's learnin something new as i go. does the bigger pressure plate, give a lighter clutch peddel or no difference.thank's all i'll keep gathering the info "onya" markus
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#7 Posted : Thursday, 22 September 2011 9:54:28 AM(UTC)
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red 6 flywheel 27 pounds,
blue 6 flywheel 14 pounds
LJ XU1 13 Pounds? not sure exactly about XU1, but its not same as blue 6
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#8 Posted : Saturday, 24 September 2011 2:17:33 AM(UTC)
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thanks adam all this info helps.
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#9 Posted : Saturday, 24 September 2011 3:36:43 AM(UTC)
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Blue cranks are much heavier, so that would be why the blue flywheels are made so much lighter.

So the light XU1 red flywheel on the lighter red crank
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#10 Posted : Saturday, 24 September 2011 3:43:59 AM(UTC)
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Is that pounds or kg? for the blue stuff? I don't remember a blue flywheel being any lighter than a red one.
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#11 Posted : Saturday, 24 September 2011 4:04:20 AM(UTC)
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pounds i believe. the rotating assembly of a red crank and red flywheel is about the same as a blue crank and blue flywheel

Markus would be better to run the red flywheel for towing a boat..

i normally advertise blue flywheels as a holden factory lightened flywheel and get my $100.

someone may provide the three part numbers for each flywheel, particulary comparison the XU-1

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#12 Posted : Saturday, 24 September 2011 7:07:07 PM(UTC)
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If that is true then yes I agree. Red flywheel with 1-tonner clutch.
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#13 Posted : Monday, 26 September 2011 1:28:50 AM(UTC)
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thanks's adam + hk, just to set the record straight this motor is to relace my tired 186(ran as bought in 88)in a 1955 landrover ute, need new clutch so thought i'd reco box as well.got the motor with g'box is the one tonner clutch heavier or can you get a lighter pressure plate to give lighter peddal,as setup is not hydrolic. thanks markus.
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#14 Posted : Wednesday, 28 September 2011 7:17:51 AM(UTC)
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Hi Markus,
Are you sure the clutch is cable as all series Landys come with hydraulic clutches, even when converted to a Holden motor this was retained.

Also do you know what clutch parts are in there at the moment as some conversions used a Holden pressure plate and some used a Land Rover pressure plate or even a Vauvhall on the Holden flywheel and some even had a modified Land Rover flywheel. If you have one with a Land Rover pressure plate you may be stuck with the flywheel that is in there as these either had the flywheel re-drilled to suit.

Conversions using the Holden pressure plate generaly have a very heavy pedal with poor feel.

Might be worth checking before you purchase any new parts.
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#15 Posted : Saturday, 8 October 2011 10:19:45 PM(UTC)
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thank's muckute, wil check that out,only one resovoir with lines to brakes,break any line "no brakes" must put a valve on there for safety factor (one day)anyway had a mate from work pop round told me it's a red motor as it has 202 on block, blue and black had 3.3 ? also its not a 12 port head he took the flat plate dust cover off to have a look at port size, "surprise surpise" (that'l teach me to go of paper work without checking,) "NOW" thanks to adam perth + HK1837 i reckon the 27lb red flywheel is the way to go,"will red 186 fit red 202"?i will have to run rover clutch plate, but what's the diff with one tonner pressure plate to normal,is it heavier(at the pedal)or diffrent in diameter(help)THANKS to you all markus
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#16 Posted : Tuesday, 11 October 2011 3:18:02 AM(UTC)
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Any chance you can post a pic of the brake reservoir and the cable setup for the clutch where it connects to the pedal as I am interested to see how it has been set up.
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