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#81 Posted : Tuesday, 16 May 2006 11:30:16 PM(UTC)
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everything seems to match up so it must be a sandman wow.thanks for your help .till next time catch ya later
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#82 Posted : Wednesday, 17 May 2006 3:42:59 AM(UTC)
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#83 Posted : Sunday, 21 May 2006 7:28:58 AM(UTC)
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hey byron,gotta get a few things sorted out,long story hey, will tell u later, then i will.what do u require {id}? .cheers again. jam
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#84 Posted : Monday, 22 May 2006 1:03:24 AM(UTC)
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All VIN and BODY plate data, plus chassis number and GVW off the ADR plate.
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#85 Posted : Saturday, 27 May 2006 9:54:37 PM(UTC)
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I have some information in relation to the earlier request regarding fitment of decals to an Atlantic Blue HZ Sandman. A DX 5 (as listed in 1980 HZ parts catalogue e.g., light blue, mid blue, dark blue) set of decals was fitted to these vans. I have personally inspected a few of these vehicles with original decals on them (1978 and 1979 models). The colour combination for the DX 5s fitted to HZs is as listed in the 1980 HZ parts catalogue (light blue, mid blue, dark blue). I have not seen any DY 4 sets (white, blue, dark blue)fitted to Atlantis Blue Original Vans. DY4s were fitted as standard to Supermint Green HZs. The two innner colours of the DY 4 (e.g., the mid blue and dark blue) are the same colours as the two inner colours of the DX5 (HZ 1980 Parts lisiting). The DX5 (plum, purple, dark blue) listed in the HX series catalogue was not carried over to HZs and was fitted essentially to Mint Julep HXs. Although the DX 5 shares the same part number for the HX and HZ listings it is listed and was supplied as a different colour combination. We manufacture the DY4s but have not had enough interest to justify making the DX5 (HZ version) and do not have an original colour sample to match them off. If you have a sample of your original decal you are willing to provide we mnay be able to make a couple of sets of these with our next batch of decals. However, it would be sometime before this happens. Let me know your thoughts.
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#86 Posted : Monday, 29 May 2006 4:00:28 AM(UTC)
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hi byron, i have just purchased a panel van in white with side windows, black buckets and gts dash.the numbers are 09/76 AHX10851A GVW 1950KG SEATS 2 MODEL HX8W M70 BODY No 210133-A TRIM 1888-18V PAINT 568-15951 ENG L32 TRANS M20 AXLE GV7. Ihope this is the info you may want if this is a sandman. It is in not too bad condition for the age although i do need the rear section of roof sorted where the gutter meets the roof, the rest can be done as and when, at least it has rego and license.
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#87 Posted : Monday, 29 May 2006 6:08:51 PM(UTC)
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Its a Sandman, as in HX commercials only Kingswoods and Sandmans had Slate black (18V) trim, and since yours isnt a Kingswood its a Sandman.
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#88 Posted : Wednesday, 7 June 2006 10:38:56 PM(UTC)
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Hi Byron - just wondering if you can confirm or deny one for me. Im leaning towards this vehicle not being a Sandman due to trim codes.

model HX8WM80 :
Body NOs 185749-A :
Trim-1890-19V:
Paint- 568-15953 :
Eng L20 :
Trans M20 :
RR Axle GV7
8M80LFL339461X

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#89 Posted : Thursday, 8 June 2006 3:27:31 AM(UTC)
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You are correct. Good start though - 4-speed HX ute. Is it a 2 or 3 seater?
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#90 Posted : Thursday, 8 June 2006 4:01:35 AM(UTC)
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Chasing up the seating info. Twice this week Ive been close but no cigar on sandman utes. The 6cyl threw me to start with too.
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#91 Posted : Thursday, 8 June 2006 7:09:43 AM(UTC)
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The 202 was standard in a HJ Sandman. Unfortunately its got 19V trim though. 18V on an HX 8M70 or 80 and its a Sandman. unless its an original NZ delivery.
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#92 Posted : Thursday, 8 June 2006 7:17:50 PM(UTC)
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Has seating for 2 on compliance plate. Just a belmont.
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#93 Posted : Thursday, 8 June 2006 8:08:23 PM(UTC)
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About Vans,i have a dud.
mine says
model-HZ8W M 70
body-416692-A
trim-1930-63V....whats 63V
paint-368-30521
eng-L31/trans-M21/axle-GU4
seating 2
no tyre placard inside glove box.
VIN-8M70THL416692Z
does anybody know what mine is.please
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#94 Posted : Thursday, 8 June 2006 8:19:32 PM(UTC)
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Hi Michael.

Whats the GVM figure on the ADR plate.

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#95 Posted : Thursday, 8 June 2006 10:36:02 PM(UTC)
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Originally posted by Michael
About Vans,i have a dud.
mine says
model-HZ8W M 70
body-416692-A
trim-1930-63V....whats 63V
paint-368-30521
eng-L31/trans-M21/axle-GU4
seating 2
no tyre placard inside glove box.
VIN-8M70THL416692Z
does anybody know what mine is.please


Id be close to 85% confident that it is a Sandman with the supplied data. If it has a GVW of 1950 or 2000kg and has the hoodlining attachment strip at the rear Id say you have a 98% chance of a Sandman.
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#96 Posted : Friday, 9 June 2006 8:37:40 AM(UTC)
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Dr Terry, the plate for GVM is 2200kg but mine says GVW.Byron,it has a full hood lining in it. but on looking closer.it many been reshelled with another chassis. the chassis number ends in B and body says A. was it built in Brisbane and assembled in Adelaide.or does them numbers dont together mean anything.do you fellas know what the trim code is. or was it a type error of the time.
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Hi Michael.

GVW = Gross Vehicle Weight & GVM = Gross Vehicle Mass same thing really. GM-H changed to this around the same time they went to metric in the 70s. Havent been able to find out exactly when.

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#98 Posted : Friday, 9 June 2006 7:03:39 PM(UTC)
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Chassis ends in B or the ADR plate chassis number ends in B?
Brisbane built vans have a Brisbane chassis number and BODY plate, so something isnt right. Its only Pagewood (Sydney) and Dandenong (Melbourne) HJ-HZ vans that have an Adelaide BODY plate. It sounds like it may have just had a chassis change though due to accident or rust.
If its an Adelaide ADR plate with 2200kg on it it could still be an XU3 Sandman but its dud as you say as there is no way to tell for sure.
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#99 Posted : Friday, 9 June 2006 8:19:24 PM(UTC)
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sorry guys,my mistake. i just looked and it starts in B.too many hours behind the wheel.the ADR plate reads build 6/78 seating 2 then BHZ 22516A. loks like the chassis number is simular but its really hard to read and i cant read it propley.is there some acid cleaner ir something i can bring up the chassis number so its readable. thanks for your help guys.
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quote:
Originally posted by hx-sandman
Hi Byron - just wondering if you can confirm or deny one for me. Im leaning towards this vehicle not being a Sandman due to trim codes.

model HX8WM80 :
Body NOs 185749-A :
Trim-1890-19V:
Paint- 568-15953 :
Eng L20 :
Trans M20 :
RR Axle GV7
8M80LFL339461X

Thanks

Nick


I had the owner of this van contact me today. It has chassis number AHX00014A, and its a 4/76 build. All areas of the ute apart from the trim code point to a Sandman including the 1860kg GVW and the fact that the original books with it state it was bought as Sandman. Im of the opinion that it has carried over with the HJ trim code either by accident or by nature of the early build. 19V is a common trim code in HJ Sandmans but ive never seen anything other than 18V in a HX Sandman which is reflected also in the HX parts catalogue.
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