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It was suggested on another site that I post a engine number I have in a HG parts car here to see if anyone can tell if it’s a Monaro motor or not.It was also mentioned that terry or byron are in the know
Numbers are 253H21628.
I suspect this is a Monaro motor because of all the other Monaro goodies that were also on the car such as GTS dash/loom, bonnet, guards, and steering box.
I do not intend to use this motor in my project. Is their any demand for such a motor and what sort of price would be reasonable if i was to sell it.
Any comments appreciated.
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Unfortunately the numbering system makes it impossible to tell if it belonged to a Monaro, Belmont, Kingswood, Premier etc. Conversely the number is perfect for a Monaro for the same reasons, because nobody knows otherwise. All you can tell is it's a high |
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Thanks for that Byron your reputation is justified and you are a wealth of information. The motor is complete and stock standard except for a two-barrel Holley and adaptor plate. It has its standard exhaust manifolds and the oil filler on the timing co Edited by user Wednesday, 18 January 2006 7:33:59 AM(UTC)
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I'm pretty sure this engine belongs to a HT, as numbering for all HT engines (barring the 307 and 350)
307 in HT Series? Thought only HK Series came with this engine.
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early HT broughams used 307`s and 308`s I believe.
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Hi Guys.
The 307 was available in early HTs, up until GMH's stock ran out around Sept/Oct '69. Officially they were only available with the Powerglide Auto.
The HT Broughams had exclusive use of the new 308 from the start of production, up until th |
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The HT V8 story is a long and involved one, that often confuses people. There must have been logic at the time, but 30 years on it all looks messy.
The HT was released with the 253 available only as a manual ie Aussie 3-speed or Saginaw (Saginaw only o |
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I knew they were there somewhere!
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Thats all very interesting stuff,
I guess the Monaro story will always be a big one. I worked with a guy that had a factory HK 81837 GTS that was fitted with a 350 and Saginaw manual box, I thought this was odd, as I once owned a HK 81837 fitted with th
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There was NEVER a 350 fitted to a HK, nor was it optional. In fact the very 1st HT 1837 was fitted with a 327 as there were no 350's yet available. The only way a 350 would be in a HK is is someone put it in there after it left Holden, or someone stroked |
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Sorry to inform you Byron, but you are wrong on this. The vehicle in question is very real.
I've seen it many times in the flesh and it was purchased new from Suttons in Challora Sydney, many years ago. The owner of this car was my supervisor at Dairy Fa
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I'll reserve judgement until I hear from Warren Turnbull or Ben Stewart of the possibility. I still struggle to believe that it could be factory. Is it a VERY late HK, ie one of the ones sold new post HT release? What does the engine number start with? It |
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Thats fine, can I email you with his name and telephone details, he's very approachable and down to earth, (old school engineering tradesman.)
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I think from memory it was after the release of the HT that this vehicle was purchased, but you can ask the owner all these questions, should you decide to contact him.
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Byron and ozchevy atre probably both right. What you will find is that there are two types of engines fitted to HK GTS 327s, one was what we know as a first type and naturally the second is a second type.
Now the second type engine was "ordered" from G
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The Sydney-London Marathon HK 1837's apparantly had 350 engines. From what I've heard they were fitted with 350 SB's within Holden. These were '68 models as the marathon was in late 1968. Do you have any detail on these? |
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I have emailed Byron with the contact details of the owner of this HK 350, I don't have any of the ID info of this car, but I'm sure if Byron follows this up he and others will be quite surprised with the vehicle ID plates.
I'm still standing on my origi
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You must remember that the only difference between a 327 second type and a 350 engine is crank, pistons and air cleaner sticker. So that is really not that much difference. As for the body ID plate a GTS 327 and GTS 350 are both 81837 so there would be no
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I'll talk to the owner and get the details. Sounds like an interesting car. Ben says he has heard of late 'white-top' HK's but has never recorded data off one before. Burgundy Maroon with a white roof - sounds very nice though. |
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