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#1 Posted : Friday, 19 May 2006 7:09:16 AM(UTC)
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G'day Guys,

I'm about to put my 600cfm Spreadbore Holley onto a new Edelbrock Performer Dual-Plane Manifold.

The manifold has bolt patterns for Square and Spreadbore carbies, and there opening on the manifold is an open square(not an arrangement of four bore holes).

My question is this:

- It is an HX, and the inlet is heated by the exhaust, hence I am putting a 12mm Phenolic spacer between manifold and carby
- What type of spacer should I get?
- an open Square-shaped Spacer (not squarebore, an 1 large
square opening)?
- or a Spreadbore Spacer?
- On either spacer should I use a square shaped gasket between the spacer and intake, and the appropriate one (spread or squareshaped) between the spacer and carby)

Thanks Guys!

1976 HX Ute 308
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#2 Posted : Friday, 19 May 2006 6:13:41 PM(UTC)
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Hi wazza187.

I would use a spreadbore spacer & 2 spreadbore gaskets, otherwise it would look a bit silly with bits of gasket & stud showing.

By the way most spreadbore Holleys I've seen are 650 cfm, post the list number & I can ID it for you.

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#3 Posted : Friday, 19 May 2006 7:24:13 PM(UTC)
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Consider blocking off heat riser unless you live in South Island of NZ. Aluminium manifolds absorb heat quickly from under the bonnet, through bolts etc.
A cooler manifold gives you a denser intake charge which if jetted correctly will make more power, a
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#4 Posted : Friday, 19 May 2006 10:16:01 PM(UTC)
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Wazza.
Street machine ran a dyno article called Power Games in the late 1980's that compared the red motor valley covers and the Edelbrock Torker and Performer.
From memory the best performed was the Performer, but only very slightly (basically nothing)

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Byron, I'd love to see that GM article on L88/ZL1 engines. Ive got a 454 with large port heads. Presently running a small port single plane but thinking of going to a large port high rise dual plane with divider removed (L88). Previously ran a low rise l
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It's in one of the HP books. I'll get the details at home. It even has the Holley part number for the stagger jetted double pumper to suit. I've gotten hold of a genuine ZL-1/L88 manifold for my HK GTS 427 (L88 option) project. You can buy a new ZL-1 allo
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#7 Posted : Saturday, 20 May 2006 3:05:26 AM(UTC)
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What r u using your 454 for. Is it street only or drag strip use with slicks etc.
On street tires, even a BBC with a lazy bottom end toque still has plenty enough HP to light the tires easily.When I build larger size street only engines, I build m
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#8 Posted : Saturday, 20 May 2006 3:46:02 AM(UTC)
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My opinion of 'street manners' is best summed up in the 454 specs you've listed above. Something that idles OK and can be driven on the street without too much hassle. The HK I am planning will be a stock looking GTS 327. But will have a 'streetable' 427
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#9 Posted : Saturday, 20 May 2006 8:03:08 PM(UTC)
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Sounds like a good project with the HK. From past experiences tho I'd rather run an auto once your making any reasonable HP(easy in a BBC)in a streeter.
Few reasons,
1 Just much easier to cruise around in, easier to drive etc.
2 An auto is easier o
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I find mine streetable though newcomers have been known to stall it. I have a M21 with very high 2.20 first and 3.7 rear, motor has 12/1 large port heads 238 on 112degree hyd roller cam and 2" headers, 3" ex, small port single plane with 950. With the 112
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Sandman, I agree about the auto being easier, stronger, more reliable, cheaper to maintain and quicker. I have a reverse manual 3500 stall TH400 with 4.11 in my 350 HK. Its all go all the time, probably quicker than the big block on the quarter though the
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#12 Posted : Sunday, 21 May 2006 12:05:50 AM(UTC)
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Sounds like a good project with the HK. From past experiences tho I'd rather run an auto
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#13 Posted : Sunday, 21 May 2006 2:45:18 AM(UTC)
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Simmo. Sounds like your on the right track with the vette.What model have you got. I had a L82 that I bought as a roller, it had a cold air scoop in the bonnet. If you go from underbonnet air to cold air you'll notice heaps of difference. I did in my HQ w
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Plus if I used an auto it would have to be a TH350 or powerglide, and as an L88 used a TH400 the theme would be out of whack. A TH400 needs floor mods in a HK and I cannot bring myself to butcher a GTS 327 especially such a significant example.
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Its a 1970 model. originally a LS5 4 speed but when I bought it some idiot had fitted a small bock. I have a Gen 5/6 engine in so the gear drive wont fit, actually Im a fan of simple chain drive cams.

Re TH400 in HK. I had someone fit one 20+ years ag
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Thanks Dr Terry & Guys!

I meant to say 600~650ish :-), as I dont know for sure what it is, but I think it is a 650 Spreabore with manual Secondaries... I'll just go get those numbers if anyone can help ID it:

Mother of Pearl! how many numbers do the
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Hey guys,

One more thing:

If i put a spreadbore gasket between the 13mm phenolic spacer (4 Barrel) and the manifold (dual opening, swuare shape), there will be a lot of the gasket that isnt between metal (i.e under spacer and opening of intake. Will
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Hi wazza187.

Cut the centre out of the gaskets, neatly with a Stanley kinfe (or similar).

Do not, DO NOT !! use any sealant on carby gaskets. Apart from being unnecessary, the goo can get sucked into spots you do not need it. As long as the surfaces
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202 column 3-speed HX Kingswood ute made in the Pagewood plant (Sydney). Sierra tan metallic (1919) with tan trim (67V). VIN number will be 8N80LGH902770X, which simply reflects the rest of the plate's data.
The ADR27A red 308's also had exhaust heated v
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