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I'm thinking about buying some mags of a VQ Stateman, will they fit HQ pattern???? Thanks
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No it is not, HQ is imperial and Commodore is metric, close but not a match. Cheers, Pete. Old Holdens never die, they just go faster. Edited by user Tuesday, 8 August 2006 7:39:59 AM(UTC)
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In simple terms no. The HQ is imperial measurement and the VQ metric. They may look the same but PSD will differ. Thats the distance between each stud. Also teh offset may cause trouble too. Thats the inward or outward position of the studs with respect t
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4 & 3/4" versus 120mm PCD.
Difference is some 0.65mm, but it's enough to break studs.
The other issue is the spigot bore is different.
And finally, the offset it too positive on commodore rims.
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I don't know about where you guys are from, but down here in South Oz, when you buy a set of after market rims they actually ask you whether they are for HQ-HZ or for Commodore. If they are for HQ-HZ they they get an insert off the shelf and and put them
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No they are NOT the same. 120.65mm Vs 120 mm. Is that point 65 of a mm important? Yes, it is about 25 thou...try putting standard rings in a 25 thou over bore or 20 thou rings in a standard bore.
AFAIK, hub adaptors are illegal in all States of Austral
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Qute is 100% correct. I'd steer clear of the shonks that are fitting Commodore rims to HQ-WB or vice versa - they have absolutely no idea about what they are doing in that regard so the question needs to be asked about other work they are doing. |
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Tighten 2 adjacent wheel nuts and then see if the rest of the holes line up. They don't. If the rims are mags (not steels) you won't even be able to get the rest of the wheel nuts on. "shonks " pretty well describes it. Although I would add "dangerous"
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These items that are fitted are not a paid for item and all they are is a round piece off metal that looks very much like some types of exhaust flange gaskets. All it does is takes up the tolerance between the centre of the rim and the hub itself... So I Edited by user Friday, 11 August 2006 10:17:19 AM(UTC)
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Hi Jas,
If the PCD (Stud Pattern) wasn't important, why would the factory put tapers on the end of the wheelnuts and corresponding tapers in the wheels? It would be so much cheaper to use normal nuts for wheel nuts and not to put the taper in the wheel
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This misconception has been going on for years. I remember when Commodores first were released, that tyre shops were fitting aftermarket HQ-WB (well HZ at the time) wheels to VB Commodores. Yes they fit. But so does a 12mm bolt in a 1/2" hole. The st |
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i got a mate with a hj and hes got pursuities on it looks **** tho
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Read the history this question has come up so often. No commy ones won't work they can be bolted on through force but the centre hole is too big and the studs are slightly different the studs will break and kill you. Edited by user Saturday, 12 August 2006 9:02:57 AM(UTC)
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Pursuit wheels look **** on anything, its like the hubcaps fell off. That's cool.
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This topic certainly has come up many times before, not only on this site and other Holden ones but on hot rod sites as well. I agree with those who said the wheels are not interchangeable. The HQ to WB is American Chev pattern while the Commodore is Ge
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