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#1 Posted : Saturday, 13 January 2007 2:43:57 AM(UTC)
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Hey everyone, can you advise me on whether you could add E.F.I to a red or blue 186. I was thinking of mating a 186 bottom end to a Black 202 E.F.I Top end. It could be a sort of Black 186. Would this work, has anyone done this before, and if so how much power approximately did it make?

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#2 Posted : Saturday, 13 January 2007 3:13:42 AM(UTC)
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Easily done, just requires a few extra holes drilled in the top of the 186 block as the blue/black heads have different water jacket holes.
How much power? Put it this way - less effective power than a black 202. In other words lots of effort for less po
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#3 Posted : Saturday, 13 January 2007 4:55:24 AM(UTC)
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Do i need the holes drilled professionally?
The reason that i would rather an injected 186 is petrol consumption. The 202 is a dog when it comes to petrol, if i was going to get a 202, i might as well get a 253 for consumption reasons. (Which by the way
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#4 Posted : Saturday, 13 January 2007 5:11:50 AM(UTC)
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Do i need the holes drilled professionally?
The reason that i would rather an injected 186 i
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#5 Posted : Saturday, 13 January 2007 6:08:23 AM(UTC)
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The EH Limo www.ehholden.com.au has a 186 block with VK injected head. It has no adverse effect at all on the injection as the airflow meter is well within it's range to supply fuel based on the air being drawn in by the motor. Personally I believe the re
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#6 Posted : Saturday, 13 January 2007 6:34:24 AM(UTC)
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Do i need the holes drilled professionally?
The reason that i would rather an injected 186 i
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#7 Posted : Saturday, 13 January 2007 7:42:56 AM(UTC)
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I was going to also bore the 186 out to 192 because from personal experience, they go harder than the 202. The reason i don't want to do a V6 is because im doing a V6 later down the track, this is just to keep me occupied for a while, and find out what ma
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#8 Posted : Saturday, 13 January 2007 7:43:48 PM(UTC)
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back in the 80`s it was common to bore 202`s out to 208 , went well in HR`s etc.they even had a ford crank modified to fit a 202 that brought it up to 232 or around that figure, I read this in a streetmachine mag years back.May have been a QLD workshop.
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#9 Posted : Saturday, 13 January 2007 8:38:17 PM(UTC)
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Yeah i heard that too. It was a Company called Crankshaft Rebuilders, and the Maodified a Ford 221 Crank

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#10 Posted : Saturday, 13 January 2007 10:43:18 PM(UTC)
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The 202 crank is different to the 149-186 crank in that it is a 3.25" stroke versus the 138-186 at 3" stroke. Plus the 202 has larger main bearings. There are three other differences also:

1. Some 138-186 cranks have neoprene rear main seals, later one
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#11 Posted : Sunday, 14 January 2007 4:51:25 AM(UTC)
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from personal experience, they go harder than the 202.
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#12 Posted : Sunday, 14 January 2007 9:03:35 AM(UTC)
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When i say "go' harder i mean rev wise, sorry.
And Byron just out of interest what type of rods would i need to use to stroke the 192 with the 221 crank? I heard that you could use VW Golf Rods (which i thougt were way too small for the 221 crank) Do you
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#13 Posted : Sunday, 14 January 2007 9:13:02 AM(UTC)
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It's also a pretty fast modificated too if you do it with all the right gear.

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#14 Posted : Monday, 15 January 2007 12:55:17 AM(UTC)
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Not sure of the exact rods, but that does ring a bell. IIRC you need to cut and shut the 221 crank to a forged red crank but I cannot adise you on pistons and rods, except that you will definitely not be able to use 186 or 202 pistons (no such thing as 19

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#15 Posted : Monday, 15 January 2007 1:51:01 AM(UTC)
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Is the 292 a straight six or a v6? If it bolts straight up to the mounts does that mean all that's required is a sump / pickup to put it in a HG? A chev radiator has the input/output on the same sides as the six, right (opposite to the holden 8)? Is it an
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Silly me just had a look at the photo in the link. Are these babies rare or a dime a dozen? Is it the angle of the photo or are they taller than a holden 6?

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#17 Posted : Monday, 15 January 2007 5:40:38 AM(UTC)
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They are common in the USA but not so here. But call a few older truck wreckers and you'll find one. They are a bit bigger than a red 6 but easily fit where a small block sits. You'll need SBC mounts IIRC (look at photo). the biggest hurdle will be the ce

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#18 Posted : Monday, 15 January 2007 5:41:51 AM(UTC)
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Byron, when you say theres no such thing as a 192 piston, does that mean that when the block is bored out, all you have to do is get oversize rings?(60 thou).

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#19 Posted : Monday, 15 January 2007 10:25:19 PM(UTC)
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It's a 186 + 0.060" piston, not a 192 piston. Pedantic I know, but correct. The situation it is correct though is when you are talking about a 173 + 0.060" (well actually +0.0625") piston as a standard bore 179 piston which it is. Same as a 179 + 0.0625"
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#20 Posted : Monday, 15 January 2007 11:42:31 PM(UTC)
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OK...then. Byron do you by any chance work for holden?

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