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#1 Posted : Saturday, 17 March 2007 5:44:51 AM(UTC)
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Will filling the water jackets be a nuisance on the street? Ive been told it increases horsepower and the compression ratio.
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#2 Posted : Saturday, 17 March 2007 11:03:38 AM(UTC)
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Hi Alex,

Filling the water jackets with what? They SHOULD be full of water/coolant anyway.

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#3 Posted : Saturday, 17 March 2007 12:01:13 PM(UTC)
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Qute, stop being so facetious. He is talking about filling a block with Devcon or epoxy or even concrete.

These products stiffen the block and you lose (most of) your cooling system. Effective for a high-zoot sleeper but not really street material. (It

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#4 Posted : Sunday, 18 March 2007 12:40:09 AM(UTC)
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Running grout filled blocks works OK on street engines. I run a couple that are filled with no problems.
What engine are you looking at filling, and for what reason. For a reasonably stock engine, there is no point.
As CC says, it won't increase your c
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#5 Posted : Sunday, 18 March 2007 12:47:07 AM(UTC)
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it's a 186 and it will be bored to 192 and will be fully worked. Ive heard that the 's that are bored +60 have cooling problems, this will make it worse wont it?.
I found a filler that expands an contracts at the same rate as iron. and tha ad said that i
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#6 Posted : Sunday, 18 March 2007 1:00:04 AM(UTC)
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If you have problems with cooling, it will be worse when you hot your engine up whether it's grouted or not.
If you grout it, you will need to have your cooling system in really good shape, as you reduce the volume of water circulating by the volume of
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#7 Posted : Sunday, 18 March 2007 1:55:11 AM(UTC)
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so should i go for the idea or sit this one out?


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#8 Posted : Sunday, 18 March 2007 6:40:07 AM(UTC)
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I was interested to read the feed back on grouting a engine.The only grouted engines I have ever seen were being raced on a 1/4 mile. They ran methanol and only had to run about 90 seconds to 120 seconds max.Weight and structural strenth were the main co
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#9 Posted : Sunday, 18 March 2007 8:11:23 AM(UTC)
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I've been running grouted engines on the street since about 1992 and had no problems with them.
The first time I did it was when a 383 I had wore out and it needed boring again so I had to go .060"oversize. As it still had the short 400chev rods I
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#10 Posted : Sunday, 18 March 2007 8:18:50 AM(UTC)
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Thanks for all the feed back Sandman. It sounds like things are a lot more high tech with the various resins out there now compared to the old concrete blocks I have seen.I suspect the resins would also be a lot lighter.Great time on the van with such lit

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#11 Posted : Monday, 19 March 2007 4:42:42 AM(UTC)
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it seems like grouting it will make the engine alot more precise when i blueprint it. I think i should run a V8 radiator and twin thermos in the car. is this a good idea or is there a better method? also i plan to run a cold air intake system.

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#12 Posted : Tuesday, 20 March 2007 3:09:48 AM(UTC)
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Yeh boom, that should work OK. Cold air is also a good move on hotted up engines. Besides the benifeit of extra HP, it will lessen the chance of detonation and pinging.

HQSS. Nice looking SS from what I can see in the lil pic. Friend of mine had one th
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#13 Posted : Tuesday, 20 March 2007 5:32:36 AM(UTC)
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So will it decrease chance of pinging if i have high compression of around 10.5 - 11:1?


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#14 Posted : Tuesday, 20 March 2007 9:40:34 AM(UTC)
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Sandman Unfortunately since joining this site and talking to Qute,I decided it was time to start cleaning it up again after many years of daily use and a few people running in to it.It seems to be coming apart more than going together at the moment.I have

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I only said what you really wanted to hear and confirmed what you'd already decided! Or, am I the excuse for your missus' benefit? If that's the case, I completely understand and you can go right ahead... :-))

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#16 Posted : Tuesday, 20 March 2007 10:21:49 AM(UTC)
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I think both Dave.My missus now keeps asking when her car will be finished and I just show her the next bit of rust that I have found. Hopefully I am at the last bit of welding on the body now.Sorry Boom Im dribbling away on the thread you started.

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#17 Posted : Wednesday, 21 March 2007 4:05:17 AM(UTC)
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HQSS, I understand.
The pic of my Sandman ute was in 1991.
It has been off the road and in pieces at the panel shop since about Aug 04 now. I'm not in a hurry though, as long as the job is good. Hopefully when it's finished it will look better than or
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#18 Posted : Wednesday, 21 March 2007 9:36:34 AM(UTC)
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Ah the unfinished ute I have one of those too.I drove it to this house 11 years ago and that was the last time it drove.I got it out of the shed and started working on it 7 months ago,Then my oldest Son got a sticker on Our HR and I decided that the HR ne
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#19 Posted : Thursday, 22 March 2007 2:43:38 AM(UTC)
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Yeah, i'm building my own engine and i'm just checking whether everything will work before i shell out my cash


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#20 Posted : Thursday, 22 March 2007 8:09:24 AM(UTC)
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