Help with HT Monaro door spears Options

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Guest		#1 Posted : Monday, 12 May 2008 6:31:15 PM(UTC)
Rank: Guest Groups: Guests Joined: 2/09/2015(UTC) Posts: 43,977 Was thanked: 5 time(s) in 5 post(s)		Guys, need some advise fitting the door spears to a HT Monaro. I have repro clips from Rares but I cant get the spear to stick to them. The spears are perfect undamaged just for info. Any tricks to this one.

Guest		#2 Posted : Tuesday, 13 May 2008 9:16:57 AM(UTC)
Rank: Guest Groups: Guests Joined: 2/09/2015(UTC) Posts: 43,977 Was thanked: 5 time(s) in 5 post(s)		Surely someone has a better way to fit these or mod the Rares clips.

Guest		#3 Posted : Tuesday, 13 May 2008 10:51:05 AM(UTC)
Rank: Guest Groups: Guests Joined: 2/09/2015(UTC) Posts: 43,977 Was thanked: 5 time(s) in 5 post(s)		which bit are you having trouble with? the door spears (window moulds) use completely different clips to any of the other molds. They are wire springs and you have to put them on the mold first. You have to whack them really hard to get them on to the doo

Guest		#4 Posted : Tuesday, 13 May 2008 7:04:57 PM(UTC)
Rank: Guest Groups: Guests Joined: 2/09/2015(UTC) Posts: 43,977 Was thanked: 5 time(s) in 5 post(s)		That Monaro expert, the coupe door stainless spears. I have an original door and the clips on it are almost the same as the repro clips. I have not seen these wire ones you are referring to. The plastic clips came in the weather strip packet from Rares.

Guest		#5 Posted : Tuesday, 13 May 2008 7:42:42 PM(UTC)
Rank: Guest Groups: Guests Joined: 2/09/2015(UTC) Posts: 43,977 Was thanked: 5 time(s) in 5 post(s)		are you talking about just below the window and not lower ones for base model? (not sure what HT has, I know what HK base model has) I havent seen the plastic clips used to attach those (window lower) before. Mine all have the wire clips. Wait and see

Dr Terry		#6 Posted : Tuesday, 13 May 2008 8:09:12 PM(UTC)
Rank: Veteran Reputation: Groups: Moderator, Registered Joined: 1/03/2005(UTC) Posts: 6,114 Thanks: 1 times Was thanked: 219 time(s) in 199 post(s)		Wire clips on HK ?? AFAIK, all trim clips on HK/T/G where white plastic. The factory type clipped onto existing 'T' fittings that were spot welded in position, when the panel was pressed. The replacement ones can be either a rivetted 'T' or just self t
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Dr Terry		#7 Posted : Tuesday, 13 May 2008 8:09:12 PM(UTC)
Rank: Veteran Reputation: Groups: Moderator, Registered Joined: 1/03/2005(UTC) Posts: 6,114 Thanks: 1 times Was thanked: 219 time(s) in 199 post(s)		Wire clips on HK ?? AFAIK, all trim clips on HK/T/G where white plastic. The factory type clipped onto existing T fittings that were spot welded in position, when the panel was pressed. The replacement ones can be either a rivetted T or just self tappe
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Guest		#8 Posted : Tuesday, 13 May 2008 8:38:08 PM(UTC)
Rank: Guest Groups: Guests Joined: 2/09/2015(UTC) Posts: 43,977 Was thanked: 5 time(s) in 5 post(s)		Hi Dr Terry, these are the ones on my HG (whats going on)

Dr Terry		#9 Posted : Tuesday, 13 May 2008 8:44:45 PM(UTC)
Rank: Veteran Reputation: Groups: Moderator, Registered Joined: 1/03/2005(UTC) Posts: 6,114 Thanks: 1 times Was thanked: 219 time(s) in 199 post(s)		I'm sure these are just an aftermarket replacement. The genuine Holden ones fit as I explained. Dr Terry.
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Dr Terry		#10 Posted : Tuesday, 13 May 2008 8:44:45 PM(UTC)
Rank: Veteran Reputation: Groups: Moderator, Registered Joined: 1/03/2005(UTC) Posts: 6,114 Thanks: 1 times Was thanked: 219 time(s) in 199 post(s)		Im sure these are just an aftermarket replacement. The genuine Holden ones fit as I explained. Dr Terry.
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Guest		#11 Posted : Tuesday, 13 May 2008 8:48:35 PM(UTC)
Rank: Guest Groups: Guests Joined: 2/09/2015(UTC) Posts: 43,977 Was thanked: 5 time(s) in 5 post(s)		gee whiz I thought they were orig. Thanks for that sorry help spear I have led you down the garden path

Guest		#12 Posted : Tuesday, 13 May 2008 11:25:43 PM(UTC)
Rank: Guest Groups: Guests Joined: 2/09/2015(UTC) Posts: 43,977 Was thanked: 5 time(s) in 5 post(s)		Dr Terry, where were these spot welded?. Here are the clips, stock one on the right. The white one is the Rares, there must be a slight difference in these clips. Here is a p

Guest		#13 Posted : Wednesday, 14 May 2008 6:04:04 AM(UTC)
Rank: Guest Groups: Guests Joined: 2/09/2015(UTC) Posts: 43,977 Was thanked: 5 time(s) in 5 post(s)		mate, you should check your clips, have you used a self tapper and spread the plastic as to not fit in the slot of the strip. I had to hit mine quite hard with a open hand to get to go on,you might have to ajust the lip on the strip itself by bending it,t

Guest		#14 Posted : Wednesday, 14 May 2008 8:15:02 AM(UTC)
Rank: Guest Groups: Guests Joined: 2/09/2015(UTC) Posts: 43,977 Was thanked: 5 time(s) in 5 post(s)		Thanks Garry. Yes I have used the self tappers that came in the packet. I did think I may had done them up too tight. But it made no difference. I also tried cutting off the feet of the plastic clip. Bending the inner edge of the spear was my next

Guest		#15 Posted : Wednesday, 14 May 2008 6:13:26 PM(UTC)
Rank: Guest Groups: Guests Joined: 2/09/2015(UTC) Posts: 43,977 Was thanked: 5 time(s) in 5 post(s)		Yes i ment the side back wind down window,the clips are two diferent sizes,i see in you photo that it is next. Also the ht boot mould- no clips available but got some ford ones to fit

Guest		#16 Posted : Wednesday, 14 May 2008 10:40:04 PM(UTC)
Rank: Guest Groups: Guests Joined: 2/09/2015(UTC) Posts: 43,977 Was thanked: 5 time(s) in 5 post(s)		Yes the rear is next, I have the boot ones from GMH so thats not a prob. Bit disapointing these clips. you go to all the trouble of restoring a car just to have this type of problem.

Guest		#17 Posted : Wednesday, 14 May 2008 10:47:11 PM(UTC)
Rank: Guest Groups: Guests Joined: 2/09/2015(UTC) Posts: 43,977 Was thanked: 5 time(s) in 5 post(s)		i think the problem is that the repro clips are made of a different material and not as flexible as the orig nylon it may make things easier if you try doing it on a sunny day with bloth the clips and the molds warmed up a bit. I would try that before

Guest		#18 Posted : Thursday, 15 May 2008 3:09:35 AM(UTC)
Rank: Guest Groups: Guests Joined: 2/09/2015(UTC) Posts: 43,977 Was thanked: 5 time(s) in 5 post(s)		Thanks for that tip Monaro expert. I went down to my local Rares store today and explained the problem. They seem to think the wrong clips were suplied in the kit, so I am taking the spear and clips down to them soon. They also gave me a some other cli

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