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#1 Posted : Wednesday, 21 May 2008 7:25:33 AM(UTC)
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Brock HDT VH - Aust Dealer Pack build 558

Gday Mr commodorenut. Youre quite clearly the man when it comes to all things brock so I was wondering, what this car (below) is, that was on ebay this week? Are they a Brock or just some fancy shmancy optioned up dealer stocky.. Are they worth looking out for? I though the VC flare kit on the VH looked pretty cool.

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#2 Posted : Wednesday, 21 May 2008 6:03:16 PM(UTC)
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I know the car, and I am aware of the owner too.
It is a genuine ADP, with a build number.

To save me rattling on about it, the best place to learn more about them is a site that I part own with 2 other guys - one being a Brock fanatic from the Brock Commodores Owners Association of Australia, and the other owner being none other than Peter Champion - the man behind HDT - New Generation.

The site is www.brockcommodores.com

And more specific info about the ADP from the fact files can be found here:
http://www.brockcommodor.../Fact%20Files/vhadp.htm
http://www.brockcommodor...t%20Files/tempvkadp.htm



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#3 Posted : Wednesday, 21 May 2008 6:03:16 PM(UTC)
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I know the car, and I am aware of the owner too.
It is a genuine ADP, with a build number.

To save me rattling on about it, the best place to learn more about them is a site that I part own with 2 other guys - one being a Brock fanatic from the Brock
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#4 Posted : Thursday, 22 May 2008 6:31:45 AM(UTC)
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Thanks Mick.
Ive always thought you had a great site there but now I know why. With 3 Brock scholars such as yourselves behind it all! Theres lots of great info there.

So what Im wondering is an ADP considered a Brock and eligible for a HDT plate then
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#5 Posted : Thursday, 22 May 2008 6:31:45 AM(UTC)
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Thanks Mick.
Ive always thought you had a great site there but now I know why. With 3 Brock scholars such as yourselves behind it all! Theres lots of great info there.

So what Im wondering is an ADP considered a Brock and eligible for a HDT plate then?

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#6 Posted : Thursday, 22 May 2008 8:02:40 AM(UTC)
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It most certainly is eligible mate.
In our NSW club we have a number of them - a couple of nice VH SL/Es (one is a high output) and some VKs.
In the Victorian club I know of 1 VH and at least 2 VKs.

You must check the numbers with HDT before purchasing a car. As long as it is a genuine HDT, then you are eligible for club membership (the BCOAA however, only allow Brock era HDTs - numbers 001 to 4246 inclusive).

These never had build plates when they were new. Build plates only came out in 84 (stick on type) then in 85 they became the rivetted-on build plate.

From the mid 80s build plates were offered by HDT as a retro-fit option, so if it doesnt have a build plate, dont rule it out straight away, as it may have never been "retrod" before, and could still be genuine.

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#7 Posted : Thursday, 22 May 2008 8:02:40 AM(UTC)
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It most certainly is eligible mate.
In our NSW club we have a number of them - a couple of nice VH SL/Es (one is a high output) and some VKs.
In the Victorian club I know of 1 VH and at least 2 VKs.

You must check the numbers with HDT before purchasi
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#8 Posted : Friday, 23 May 2008 7:26:56 PM(UTC)
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Thanks Mick.
So what sort of prices are they going for on todays market? I suppose the different options on them would command different prices but they still seem a lot cheaper that a HDT brock?
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#9 Posted : Friday, 23 May 2008 7:26:56 PM(UTC)
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Thanks Mick.
So what sort of prices are they going for on todays market? I suppose the different options on them would command different prices but they still seem a lot cheaper that a HDT brock?
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#10 Posted : Friday, 23 May 2008 8:00:36 PM(UTC)
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Because theyre not one of the icon models (VC, VH Gp3, VK Gp3, VK GpA, VL GpA) they tend to have a lesser demand & thus the prices remain a bit lower - and they sit on the market a bit longer.

I couldnt hope to put an accurate value on it, as the market has been so volatile lately - and even state to state variations in price are massive.

Options are a factor, but more so what engine is in them (a 5L is always going to be more desired than a 4.2L) and the condition + km is also a factor, as restoration items are very expensive now, even with HDTs ever expanding, but limited range of repro parts.

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#11 Posted : Friday, 23 May 2008 8:00:36 PM(UTC)
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Because they're not one of the icon models (VC, VH Gp3, VK Gp3, VK GpA, VL GpA) they tend to have a lesser demand & thus the prices remain a bit lower - and they sit on the market a bit longer.

I couldn't hope to put an accurate value on it, as the mar
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#12 Posted : Monday, 18 January 2010 6:22:21 AM(UTC)
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i think i actually have one of these.
its in the shed and i bought it off the second owner
has all the original deposit receipt the owners manual with servicing up to around 120 thou.
believe its only an SL
cars now done 325 thou. has the irmscher rims and spare (no centre)the 90 litre tank
4.2 auto tbar (dont think its the high output)momo brock steering wheel, front spoiler and rear boot spoiler...build nov 83
has no sticker or build plate that im aware of.
id actually like to chase the history and would like any heads up on how to do this and see if its eligable for the build #.
car is white with hdt improved decals blue interior, has cruise control aircon, alpine original radio and speakers.
ill have some photos up soon as ill be looking to sell it eventually

so...how do i find out if its eligable?
do i head back to the original dealer with the book (has the engine# vin# and model name)???
cheers in advance
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#13 Posted : Monday, 18 January 2010 7:59:09 AM(UTC)
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Ring HDT with the numbers - its the only real way.

You can browse the bible of numbers, but there are lots of blanks in the VH era, and numerous errors. My copy has more red pen on some pages than there is black typing.

Thus, I re-iterate, ring HDT, give them all your numbers, and let them check it against their original build sheet record.

http://www.hdt.com.au/
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#14 Posted : Monday, 18 January 2010 8:51:29 AM(UTC)
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thanks mate
yeah i actually got pretty excited and hit the shed with a torch taking out back seats, looking behind the dash and lifting carpet for build sheets.
i did find the "assembly line and safety compliance inspection card" under the passenger side carpet at the back
i am presuming this is not the build sheet.
i will contact hdt tomorrow
thanks mick your help is much appreciated :)

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#15 Posted : Tuesday, 19 January 2010 7:40:24 AM(UTC)
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thanks mate
yeah i actually got pretty excited and hit the shed with a torch taking out back seats, looking behind the dash and lifting carpet for build sheets.
i did find the "assembly line and safety compliance inspection card" under the passenger side carpet at the back
i am presuming this is not the build sheet.
i will contact hdt tomorrow
thanks mick your help is much appreciated :)


Assuming this photobucket album is your car:
http://s568.photobucket..../ss128/mdhmdh_2009/ADP/

Then you have build # 1054

Its an interesting car, noted as an ADP SLE 4.2L, yet the base vehicle is an SL - theres a Sydney car like this too, and they did SLE trim into it, including rear headrests, all in leather.

The ADP is really a case of how much do you want done (closely followed by how much do you want to/can you afford to spend) and there probably wouldnt be 2 the same.

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#16 Posted : Wednesday, 20 January 2010 9:06:57 PM(UTC)
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thanks agian mate
it was confirmed in another forum with the same number of 1054
thanks for the work in chasing down the numbers
im still waiting on the hdt email, but at least i now know what it actually is.

thanks once again
see you guys around the forums!
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#17 Posted : Tuesday, 22 January 2013 5:18:13 AM(UTC)
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trim 1991-27x
whats the name of the color of the carpet
is it the medium blue?

heres the old carpet
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#18 Posted : Tuesday, 22 January 2013 8:53:51 AM(UTC)
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The interior colour is "Indigo Blue" and you have the SL/X shadowtone/twin-tone interior - which is why you have light blue door trims & seat backs, and dark blue dash & seat facings.
In the VH SL/E, there were 2 options - twin-tone & single tone - the single tone having dark blue everywhere that your car is light blue.

You won't be able to replace the carpet, as the blue is ade up of multiple colours, all stranded together. The Claret (burgundy) VH carpet is the same. All the aftermarket guys supply is a single colour, and none of them are a close match.

You don't really have many options except to look for a good SL or SL/X carpet (SL/E is no good to you, as it's cut-pile (shaggy) while the SL & SL/X were loop pile.
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#19 Posted : Tuesday, 22 January 2013 9:43:50 AM(UTC)
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thanks for the help Mick
you certainly are the man to ask

pity i cant get the original carpet color off the rack but thems the breaks
cheers once again
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#20 Posted : Wednesday, 23 January 2013 5:56:50 PM(UTC)
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Hi Mick
While we are on the subject of HDT cars and their derivatives, can you tell us about CDT Commodores. Are they regarded as official HDT products and how do they compare to ADP cars in terms of specification and desirability ?
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