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#1 Posted : Monday, 8 September 2008 9:40:48 PM(UTC)
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I have a little trailer with what Im told are Holden wheels on it.

14" wheels. I've only got two. I need a spare. But I can't find one.

Nothing fits. I must have exactly the right thing because the axle is so short there's no leeway. A fatter tyre will rub against the body. Wheels with a greater 'throw' towards the body will rub against the body.

Here's the dimensions of the existing wheels:

The bolt holes are half inch.

There are five of them.

There are 2.25inches between centres. Or 1.75inches from one side of one bolt hole to the nearest side of the next.

The distance from the raised rim around the central axle hole to the rim of the wheel on the backside of the wheel (nearest the vehicle) is 3.75inches. Or from the surface at the bolt hole to that rim is 4inches.

I've been variously told they are HR or HT wheels. I got a wheel was supposed to be the same thing but the distance from bolt hole surface to rim was 4.75 inches!

That distance is what I'm calling the 'throw' of the wheel. That's how far back towards the body of the trailer the wheel reaches from the axle flange when it is bolted on.

Reaching back 4" is okay. Reaching back 4.75" is no good.

Can anyone identify these wheels so's I can make another effort to track one down?

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#2 Posted : Monday, 8 September 2008 10:33:35 PM(UTC)
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ROH made a lot of trailer wheels. You could try contacting their head office in SA or local outlet. A photo attached to your email might also help.
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#3 Posted : Monday, 8 September 2008 10:43:47 PM(UTC)
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They arent early Holden / Torana, HQ-HZ or Commodore.

The smallest PCD is from the Early/Torana and its 2.5" centre to centre (PCD is 4.25").

HQ is 4.75" PCD and Commodore is 120 mm.

There arent too many smaller Holdens with 14" wheels.

Can yo

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#4 Posted : Tuesday, 9 September 2008 3:07:51 PM(UTC)
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Could they be from a gemini or Camira. I had 5 stud holden wheel on my boat trailer that were like this. I ended up fitting a brake over ride kit with HQ stubs - much easier and nicer with a set of old 14 inch gold alloy hotwires,

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#5 Posted : Tuesday, 9 September 2008 5:03:02 PM(UTC)
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Hi Guys.

They won't be Camira/Calibra, because these have only 4 studs. Abrogard said his trailer wheels have 5 studs.

My guess is that they're early Valiant rims, they have 5 studs & a 4-inch PCD.

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Hi Guys.

They wont be Camira/Calibra, because these have only 4 studs. Abrogard said his trailer wheels have 5 studs.

My guess is that theyre early Valiant rims, they have 5 studs & a 4-inch PCD.

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#7 Posted : Tuesday, 9 September 2008 5:29:13 PM(UTC)
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In the time it probably took you to measure all that up and type it out you could have thrown the thing in the boot, gone down to your local tyre and wheel joint and they could have told you what it is from instead getting some guesses from here.

These
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#8 Posted : Tuesday, 9 September 2008 6:02:08 PM(UTC)
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Thanks for your input, guys. I will post a picture directly. 'PCD'? That's the technical term for this thing I'm calling 'throw'?

Custom: I've tried numerous 'professional' sources (i.e. shops) from Katherine NT to Adelaide via internet and talking to
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#9 Posted : Tuesday, 9 September 2008 6:02:08 PM(UTC)
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Thanks for your input, guys. I will post a picture directly. PCD? Thats the technical term for this thing Im calling throw?

Custom: Ive tried numerous professional sources (i.e. shops) from Katherine NT to Adelaide via internet and talking to every blo
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#10 Posted : Tuesday, 9 September 2008 9:23:21 PM(UTC)
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sorry to swear. but i had a car trailer with the same problem. i found out the wheels were off a early ford. like a XP ute. as i know XP sedan were 4 stud but utes were 5 stud.
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#11 Posted : Tuesday, 9 September 2008 9:28:38 PM(UTC)
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Heres three pics, attempting to show the wheel, the dimension between bolt holes and the dimension of the throw. Not very well, I see. But its my third attempt and I dont seem to have the knack. But I guess you just mainly want to see the look of the w
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Here's three pics, attempting to show the wheel, the dimension between bolt holes and the dimension of the throw. Not very well, I see. But it's my third attempt and I don't seem to have the knack. But I guess you just mainly want to see the look of th
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#13 Posted : Tuesday, 9 September 2008 10:27:24 PM(UTC)
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The PCD is a circle drawn through the centre of all of the holes.

With the bottom pic you should be measuring from the top of the ridge as this is the face that sits on your brake hub.

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#14 Posted : Wednesday, 10 September 2008 12:05:37 AM(UTC)
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PCD = Pitch Circle Diameter or as James says above draw a circle through all of the wheel studs and you have the pcd.

What you are referring to as throw is called backspacing. That wheel looks like a VG Valiant wheel so you are after what is known a

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#15 Posted : Wednesday, 10 September 2008 3:25:18 AM(UTC)
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Thanks for your input, guys. Ive been and measured a little more carefully, now I know a little more. That PCD seems a pretty definitive measurement. As best I can make out my PCD is 4.25" and the studs 2.5" between centres. I earlier reported that a
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Thanks for your input, guys. I've been and measured a little more carefully, now I know a little more. That PCD seems a pretty definitive measurement. As best I can make out my PCD is 4.25" and the studs 2.5" between centres. I earlier reported that
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That cuts it down considerably. The only Holdens that had 14' rims with a 4.25" PCD were HK/HT/HG (if you exclude the L34 & A9X Toranas). The HT/HG have less backspacing than the HK versions.

If you need to know exactly what wheel rims you have, take o

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That cuts it down considerably. The only Holdens that had 14 rims with a 4.25" PCD were HK/HT/HG (if you exclude the L34 & A9X Toranas). The HT/HG have less backspacing than the HK versions.

If you need to know exactly what wheel rims you have, take on

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#19 Posted : Wednesday, 10 September 2008 8:20:40 PM(UTC)
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Thanks, Dr Terry, Ill do that. It might take a couple of days but Ill get to it. If youll be kind enough to watch this thread for a little while Ill post the number when I get it.

I guess Ill get the longer axle and different wheels which will make
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Thanks, Dr Terry, I'll do that. It might take a couple of days but I'll get to it. If you'll be kind enough to watch this thread for a little while I'll post the number when I get it.

I guess I'll get the longer axle and different wheels which will
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