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#1 Posted : Tuesday, 31 March 2009 7:21:13 AM(UTC)
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hey yall.
my head, after not using it for a couple weeks, sounded like it had a chaffcutter inside it.
not sure why??
it has hydraulic lifters, vb308
could it be the oil pump is cactus?
if so is it hard to change them over?
or might it be something else?
thanks already,
bcb

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#2 Posted : Tuesday, 31 March 2009 8:51:55 AM(UTC)
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How long did you run it for? If the lifters bled down itd take more than a quick fire up, "whats that noise?" and shut down again for them to pump fully. Especially if your pumps not up to scratch and the oils old.
"Silly modern cars"
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#3 Posted : Tuesday, 31 March 2009 7:17:58 PM(UTC)
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hey hqforme,
i am sure the lifters have bled down?
um? the oil pressure gauge works, but shows low pressure?
oil is not that old,
are oil pumps like petrol pumps? diaphram, do they split/tear/
and is the oil pump, the doobelacky, that the oil filter
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#4 Posted : Wednesday, 1 April 2009 1:39:47 AM(UTC)
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It is typical for hyd lifters to empty after a few weeks. Used daily you dont hear it. The lifters could be OLD and tired and no longer pump up as they should, hence they bleed oil quicker.

Therefore dont worry if the noise goes after a minute or two.
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#5 Posted : Wednesday, 1 April 2009 2:03:06 AM(UTC)
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hey trubleu hq,,
vb308,,about 30years old,,,had broken bridge not long ago,,i presume the lifters are the long rods with what looks like hole in middle,
remember this fine piece of basketcase engineering, has to get to queensland,, thinking of starting
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#6 Posted : Wednesday, 1 April 2009 2:13:12 AM(UTC)
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Your on about pushrods BCB..The lifters sit below them. Id be firing her up again and running her for a few minutes (gently) to see if they stop the racket.
Im about to fire up a mild 308 i just bought that aint run for over four years...bet thatll chatt
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#7 Posted : Wednesday, 1 April 2009 2:19:16 AM(UTC)
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now duzty
you gotta answer my email i sent ya about the ambo sale,,
or will i send it again?
silly me thought, the push rods run on the cam?
so there is something else sitting on the cam? under the push rods?
amazing.
cheers
bcb

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#8 Posted : Wednesday, 1 April 2009 3:10:43 AM(UTC)
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Hes no forum machanic lol
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#9 Posted : Wednesday, 1 April 2009 3:33:28 AM(UTC)
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AM TOO!!!!

said the weathercock to the wind,> "how tedious and monotonous you are, can you not blow in any other direction, but in my face!"
and the wind did not answer, it just laughed in space.
k.g/
more than basketcase than a bear!
DOH!!!
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#10 Posted : Wednesday, 1 April 2009 3:45:38 AM(UTC)
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lol
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#11 Posted : Wednesday, 1 April 2009 9:23:46 PM(UTC)
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BCB,

That is correct, there is something else under the pushrods. The Lifters are small cylinders about the size of your thumb. Usually pretty much flat where they rub on the cam, and a cup with hole in at the other end that the pushrod sits in. F
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#12 Posted : Wednesday, 1 April 2009 9:27:14 PM(UTC)
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BCB, oil pumps of that era, as far as i know, are gear type. Two gears spinning and the oil is passed around them, between teeth and pump body.

If oil pressure is low, your oil could be very old and thin. That would help explain low pressure and strugg
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#13 Posted : Wednesday, 1 April 2009 9:37:50 PM(UTC)
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you can also remove the cover off the oil pump and fill it full of grease to get the oil going again. Before you do that though remove your oil filter and prime it full of oil as that may be enough.

You can also fit a VN V8 oil filter as they are sma

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#14 Posted : Thursday, 2 April 2009 3:39:56 AM(UTC)
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well thanks jabb/jim/hq4me.
must have a proper lookee see in an engine one day?
i believe it has a small oil filter on it already,
will give it another run tomorrow, might take off rocker cover, see if there is any oil in head,
as for taking distribut
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#15 Posted : Thursday, 2 April 2009 6:10:00 PM(UTC)
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quote:
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If you think pump is wonky, you can remove distributor and use a spare shaft or a special do
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#16 Posted : Thursday, 2 April 2009 10:20:31 PM(UTC)
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thatswhat i thought doc terry,
the oil pump is the boxy thing the filter is screwed onto,
is this hard to replace?
cause i reckon it is worn out, and could be causing lack of oil in head etc?
so if it is like a mech petrol pump, i will change it over
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#17 Posted : Thursday, 2 April 2009 11:54:26 PM(UTC)
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quote:
Originally posted by basketcasebear

the oil pump is the boxy thing the filter is screwed onto,
is this hard to repl

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#18 Posted : Friday, 3 April 2009 4:22:54 AM(UTC)
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thanks j5.0,
will check it out
cheers
bcb

said the weathercock to the wind,> "how tedious and monotonous you are, can you not blow in any other direction, but in my face!"
and the wind did not answer, it just laughed in space.
k.g/
more than basketcase than a bear!
DOH!!!
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#19 Posted : Friday, 3 April 2009 9:19:35 AM(UTC)
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fired her up again today, and heaps betterer,,
so probably was just from sitting around,
will change oil to good quality aswell
thanks and cheers all
bcb

said the weathercock to the wind,> "how tedious and monotonous you are, can you not blow
more than basketcase than a bear!
DOH!!!
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#20 Posted : Friday, 3 April 2009 3:17:12 PM(UTC)
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Another handy toy is Moreys oil stabiliser. For wornish engines it thickens the oil a wee bit and adds a bit of additional slippery as well. Not as handy as a full rebuild, but keeps you running without some of the scarier noises.

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