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#1 Posted : Wednesday, 22 April 2009 2:27:47 AM(UTC)
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I am after some feedback on one of the products that Hoppers Stoppers offer, specifically, the 300mm rotor & twin spot PBR caliper upgrade to HQ-WB stub axles. This kit runs a separate hub & hat style rotor & utilises PBR Ford AUIII calipers.
What are the comparisons in braking characteristics relative to standard HQ-WB. i.e. Stopping distance? Multiple hard applications fading? Recovery? Front rear balance?
All comments welcome. (except for that knob colby)

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#2 Posted : Wednesday, 22 April 2009 3:27:58 AM(UTC)
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speak to a guy called ken Maclean, he used to work at Hoppers and had alot to do with the design of all their braking packages, i will see if i still have his number, or email me and i will give you his details, he will be a great help
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#3 Posted : Wednesday, 22 April 2009 9:27:56 AM(UTC)
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gday utility8
Im not sure about the exact details regarding the diff between this to normal hq-wb but i had a look at this kit for my hr but choose not to go down the path as i didnt really need it with my motor being a 202, if you putting in a v8 in the
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#4 Posted : Wednesday, 22 April 2009 6:27:02 PM(UTC)
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Thanks guys, I already have hoppers answers. I am after feedback from the customers that have bought & used the upgrade kits for a clear picture, no bias.

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#5 Posted : Wednesday, 22 April 2009 7:11:12 PM(UTC)
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Ive fitted several of their kits to various models & I have no complaints about quality or fitment, it was all good. Something I cant say about some other conversion parts companies.

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#6 Posted : Thursday, 23 April 2009 3:16:26 AM(UTC)
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i had a bit of involvement with an instal on a 57chev. We had alot of problems with our instal. Parts not threaded, wrong size ect. It was disapointing for the price.
Im not saying they are all bad. Maybe we got the lemon
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#7 Posted : Monday, 27 April 2009 12:14:09 AM(UTC)
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I must say I am quite astonished that this thread topic generated no replies. Especially from car addicts that have fitted, & more importantly, are using this product. I was searching for feedback about the performance & long term use of this product. Alt
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#8 Posted : Monday, 27 April 2009 1:09:22 AM(UTC)
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brother ute8,
unless its got matching numbers, NOS stickers on it, full history, one of build by gm, and all the a**l crap that belongs to historians, you wont get much replies on here about modifications.
when it comes to what you have done, which i th
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#9 Posted : Monday, 27 April 2009 1:39:46 AM(UTC)
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Well ww8so, Ill be buggered; I thought a larger variety of car nuts would peruse the pages of this fine forum. And give input. It does take all kinds. Ah well, hopefully theres someone out there that may be able to stop modifying his/her Holden for a minu
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#10 Posted : Monday, 27 April 2009 2:18:24 AM(UTC)
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quote:
Originally posted by Utility8
I must say I am quite astonished that this thread topic generated no replies.

Edited by user Monday, 27 April 2009 2:23:02 AM(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified

If at first you don't succeed, just call it Version 1.0
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#11 Posted : Monday, 27 April 2009 2:29:41 AM(UTC)
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awwwww, come on DOC, i aint that bad am I??? everyone that knows me luffs me DOC, i will be in sydney next week for the nitro champs, can i shout ya a coffee or gelati?
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#12 Posted : Monday, 27 April 2009 3:28:19 AM(UTC)
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I stand corrected Dr.T. Yes, you were among the handful of replies, but I still have yet to receive anything about my questions of use & performance of the package once fitted.
As much as cost is a factor in my decision making with regard
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#13 Posted : Monday, 27 April 2009 4:24:31 AM(UTC)
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I think where the problem lies, is that what works for you on your ute may not be as good on say an HQ with a Big Block. Custom built cars are all different. Even if you could find two identical custom cars, the differences in their owners driving style w
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#14 Posted : Monday, 27 April 2009 5:12:24 AM(UTC)
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I cant comment on the use and performance of the kit, but I am interested in the outcome of your findings.
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#15 Posted : Monday, 27 April 2009 5:37:20 AM(UTC)
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if your asking for opinion....
i wouldnt bother. The HQ-WB front brakes are excellent i think, and on a 1300 kg EH ute would be fine.
saveyour money and spend it on tyres to help it stop.
as for ventilation?. i think is only warrented for race conditio
Old holdens brought on the spot, quick decision, cash paid.
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#16 Posted : Monday, 27 April 2009 5:53:54 AM(UTC)
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WWreck, there are plenty of guys on here with different backgrounds.
Matching numbers etc has its place, and most people here appreciate that.
i am willing to bet that most people on here have owned an EH at some stage that was modified..


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#17 Posted : Monday, 27 April 2009 8:48:58 AM(UTC)
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Thanks for your insight adam Perth, but Im not looking for opinions as to whether I should do it. I did it on Friday afternoon. My want is for feedback on what experiences people have had once the job was done & the car is being driven. Comparitively, is

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#18 Posted : Monday, 27 April 2009 6:09:03 PM(UTC)
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youve asked a subjective question, got a few reasoned answers, then jump on everyone for not providing analytical data on braking distance vs pedal effort for a car thats likely unique for the purpose of the exercise.

The OEMs know this data because th

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#19 Posted : Monday, 27 April 2009 6:47:13 PM(UTC)
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My feeling is that the tyre would have more influence on braking ability than HQ-WB brakes verses upgraded VT or whatever.
what would your engineer know about tyre choice? has it got tread, yes or no?
compare BF goodrich T/As verses Yokie 352s for examp
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#20 Posted : Monday, 27 April 2009 7:22:42 PM(UTC)
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the tyres are a huge part of a vehicles braking system as adam said, the boffins call it "point of limiting friction" or somesuch and basically it means that the effectiveness of the brakes is limited by the tyres ability to maintain traction on the road.

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