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Anyone else here vist the Shannons Club? I enjoy the articles but this one on the BMW 2002 annoyed me. The author claims that BMW were the first with a series production turbocharged car. In 1973. Only problem with that is the Oldsmobile Jetfire & Chev Corvair turbos debuted in 1962. To rub it in he mentions the Corvair's styling influence on the BMW, so he's certainly aware of its existance. Its omisions like that that that enforce the sterotype that Detroit was only good for fins,chrome V8s & longer,lower,wider. And don't go there with Joe Kenwright's anti Holden bias.......... End of rant, thanks for letting me vent! Chris Edited by user Thursday, 3 September 2015 1:14:59 PM(UTC)
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I know exactly how you feel, and share the same view.
Haven't visited the site, but you're dead right about JK's prejudice.
Unfortunately it's the same with numerous so-called motoring journalists (there seems to be 10x as many these days as 10 years ago, as if having an article or 2 on the internet suddenly qualifies them as a journo....) The majority of them are so critical of Aussie built cars, and their "readers" pick up on this as well - it's no wonder the local car industry is in dire straits.
If it's not Ferrari-like performance, then they bag it. If it doesn't have as many cup holders as it's competition, it's crap. They don't do real world road tests or comparisons anymore - it's all about their own personal (and often very impractical) taste. What family car buyer needs to know what the 0-100 time is for a Veyron?
I recently showed a 1975 car magazine to a guy at work who has developed a sudden thirst for 70's Jap stuff.
He was amazed at how thorough, factual, and unbiased the comparison road tests are in it.
And don't get me started on the abomination of spelling & grammar errors in modern car magazines.
You'd think with the technology these days, nothing would get through.
In the 70s & 80s you could pick up a car magazine, and the proof readers ensured it had perfect spelling, grammar & punctuation.
These days they are absolute crap.
But getting back to the ignorance of facts - unfortunately it's rife, and the internet with it's "self publishing" ability is responsible for an explosion in recent years of more & more bullshit facts - far more than any 50 year old pub carpet has ever had spilt on it. These "facts" are never checked, and suddenly become legend... I love the idiots who write that their commodore "rolled off the line in Fisherman's bend" - totally unaware that their car was assembled in an entirely different state, and no commodore ever went down a line at F/Bend.... but you can't tell them.... and there's even more bullshit being spread about Toranas & Monaros. |
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I agree with both of you regarding lousy journalism..bias. I don't buy the car magazines anymore, as they annoy me so much.Overpriced with nothing of interest printed,the magazine usually had more advertising than substance. |
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I recently watched the XD Falcon "interview" and they got in their Shannon's Action expert for a model appraisal. What great wisdom he had, the 6 cylinders are not worth as much as the V8 models. Did not give any ranges of what is selling at the moment etc. Oh and its also hard to find one without rust, which is expensive to fix. I do not think you need his expert knowledge to know that yourself.
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Good subject Chris.
Without wanting to sound like a geriatric curmudgeon, I remember eagerly waiting for the next editions of Wheels, or Street Machine so I could go directly to the latest Romsey Quints or Brian Plankman article.
It was clever writing, and enjoyable to read, as were the road tests and comparisons. The current magazines don't generate the same enthusiasm from me.
I don't think the magazines of the 60s, 70s and 80s were immune from factual errors, and some of them are painful to read these days, but at least they were better written, edited, researched, and thought out than a lot of the bilge that seems to spurt from the keyboards of the current crop of alleged journalists.
A lot of the writing seems to be dumbed down to suit the lowest common denominator, and you get the feeling that a many of the authors also write the gardening columns.
Look no further than the painful local version of Top Gear if you need evidence of what the media thinks of the intelligence of the average car enthusiast.
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Originally Posted by: gm5735  Good subject Chris.
Without wanting to sound like a geriatric curmudgeon, I remember eagerly waiting for the next editions of Wheels, or Street Machine so I could go directly to the latest Romsey Quints or Brian Plankman article.
It was clever writing, and enjoyable to read, as were the road tests and comparisons. The current magazines don't generate the same enthusiasm from me.
I don't think the magazines of the 60s, 70s and 80s were immune from factual errors, and some of them are painful to read these days, but at least they were better written, edited, researched, and thought out than a lot of the bilge that seems to spurt from the keyboards of the current crop of alleged journalists.
A lot of the writing seems to be dumbed down to suit the lowest common denominator, and you get the feeling that a many of the authors also write the gardening columns.
Look no further than the painful local version of Top Gear if you need evidence of what the media thinks of the intelligence of the average car enthusiast.
Top Gear Australia is dead now anyway.
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Originally Posted by: commodorenut I know exactly how you feel, and share the same view.
Haven't visited the site, but you're dead right about JK's prejudice.
Unfortunately it's the same with numerous so-called motoring journalists (there seems to be 10x as many these days as 10 years ago, as if having an article or 2 on the internet suddenly qualifies them as a journo....) The majority of them are so critical of Aussie built cars, and their "readers" pick up on this as well - it's no wonder the local car industry is in dire straits.
If it's not Ferrari-like performance, then they bag it. If it doesn't have as many cup holders as it's competition, it's crap. They don't do real world road tests or comparisons anymore - it's all about their own personal (and often very impractical) taste. What family car buyer needs to know what the 0-100 time is for a Veyron?
I recently showed a 1975 car magazine to a guy at work who has developed a sudden thirst for 70's Jap stuff.
He was amazed at how thorough, factual, and unbiased the comparison road tests are in it.
And don't get me started on the abomination of spelling & grammar errors in modern car magazines.
You'd think with the technology these days, nothing would get through.
In the 70s & 80s you could pick up a car magazine, and the proof readers ensured it had perfect spelling, grammar & punctuation.
These days they are absolute crap.
But getting back to the ignorance of facts - unfortunately it's rife, and the internet with it's "self publishing" ability is responsible for an explosion in recent years of more & more bullshit facts - far more than any 50 year old pub carpet has ever had spilt on it. These "facts" are never checked, and suddenly become legend... I love the idiots who write that their commodore "rolled off the line in Fisherman's bend" - totally unaware that their car was assembled in an entirely different state, and no commodore ever went down a line at F/Bend.... but you can't tell them.... and there's even more bullshit being spread about Toranas & Monaros. No money in journalism these days. Web-based publications feel the pressure to publish as soon as they possibly can to satiate readers' need for instant gratification. In the old days there was a month to mull over facts and figures and there was the money to do it. Not now.
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I have never been totally impressed with most Aussie car magazine test as they never go into a full test of the car or cars and I am talking about from the 60's on, but in the 60' 70's some things were explained more in detail and specification's but a lousy test half hearted like. I once read a car mag my uncle gave to me from Denmark it was fantastic, they did full on test that proved the facts 400m 1km top speed and all. Here we can have someone like grand ma duck do a report and nowadays we get some new age rainbow Political Correct boring hopeless wind bag, who is off with the pixies rattling on about the drink holders are not up to it and their is no place for your big mac and that the fear of not having 101 air bags is freaking him out. 
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