351st HK Brougham out of the Elizabeth (Adelaide) factory.

Exterior paint Hacienda Blue Metallic

Interior trim Light & Dark Teal Brocade.

Dr Terry

Edited by user Thursday, 2 March 2017 3:33:19 PM(UTC)  | Reason: Spelling correction

Possibly not quite the 351st Terry, just the 351st 81469 tagged Brougham body out of the Elizabeth body plant. I know it is a little pedantic, but the reason I say this is twofold:

Firstly, Elizabeth made bodies for other assembly plants, and it is quite likely that some early body numbered bodies went to Mosman Park for assembly (not sure if they assembled any Brougham).
Secondly early Brougham was option XS4 on 80569 until about May 1968, thus it is likely the pilot Broughams are actually in the Elizabeth 80569 body plant total, not 81469.

That is exactly why I said what I did Warren, so if say 5 Elizabeth bodies went to Mosman Park then the Elizabeth plant total of that particular model is then X-5. the same affect occurs with the chassis number although it is a cumulative series total not a model total.

Are you sure the body tags were changed on all cars? I know some cars (not necessarily HK Brougham though) that had their configuration changed but never got their replacement body tag.
Plus it'd mean for assembled vehicles that the VIN plate would then be wrong too. As far as I know there was only ever one PSN plate printed this no way to make a new one.
On that subject, have any Elizabeth HK Premier plates turned up with Brougham specific trim code? Or HK Belmont Utes with Kingswood trim code?

Edited by user Thursday, 2 March 2017 8:34:51 PM(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified

I understand that Warren, again hence my comment. As many Elizabeth bodies went to not only Perth, but also to Dandenong and Pagewood the individual body plate number sequences are not the total of that model from the Elizabeth plant (which is what was originally stated). I do not know if HK Brougham bodies were exported though. Sure the bodies are painted and have glass and HARD TRIM, but they were not trimmed afaik other than roof lining, had nothing forward of the firewall, no driveline and no chassis in the case of HQ-HZ. The only reason they got a compliance/ADR plate for HT-HG was the chassis number was on the body thus a plate was issued at the body plant. Same as LC Torana. HQ-HZ only had the body plate as the chassis number went on the rails. The finalised cars are included in the PSN records for the assembly plant, and if they put together totals for how many of each model they produced that total would include the cars they assembled. The PSN records for the location where the body was completed do not include all the exported bodies to other locations, except maybe those bodies that actually wore a partial PSN as a body number from the body plant location like van, cab chassis and ute bodies out of Elizabeth that went to Dandenong and Pagewood for assembly post about 7/77.

I still can't see GMH changing a BODY plate and not changing the VIN plate too if the model numbers changed. Not saying it didn't happen, but from everything I understand the VIN plate PSN part was pre-prepared and not done as part of the vehicle build process, thus building a second one might have created a challenge. However we aren't talking many cars I guess.

I realise that the Brougham optioned "Premier" and the Kingswood optioned "Belmont ute" would have different TRIM codes to what you'd expect for the model depicted on the body plate, just like an XV4 optioned HQ Kingswood sedan, which is why I asked if any have ever turned up as such given that the trims were well decided by then but the creation of a new model code didn't happen until late in the piece. So if a very early Elizabeth 80180 turns up with Kingswood trim it may well be one of these, same with Brougham optioned 80569. I have had one such HQ Belmont van turn up with E trim - and it is a unique vehicle too as an optioned Belmont van.

Edit: just had a thought Warren. If new tags were to be issued to a few early Elizabeth Broughams that had an 80569 model code, what sequence number would it have been given? If it was 1-A or 2-A etc then that means the XS4 optioned 80569's were counted in the body number total, so 351-A is the 351st Brougham body that Elizabeth body plant put together, but this also means the Elizabeth HK Premier sedan body count would then be wrong. If however 1-A, 2-A were already used, what body number would be given to them if the plates were replaced? I suspect 81469 1-A etc were already used based solely upon the fact we know 81837 1-A and 2-A exist and that there is at least afaik one 80737 XT2 from Elizabeth still around.

Edited by user Friday, 3 March 2017 6:38:16 PM(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified