Hi All,
First post on this forum,
My name is Cam and I'm from Sale Victoria.
Just purchased the car I've always wanted and have started the restoration process.
I'm looking to firstly identify the car and then restore to as original as practical.
I've been reading a lot of good information on this forum and thought it might be time to make a thread and ask some questions in regards to my car.

I purchased the car under the impression it was a factory 308 TH400 LSD HZ Premier, It has been sitting in a friends shed for the last 10 years or more and since he has owned it little has been changed.
He drove it as a daily driver and parked it up when it developed a bottom end knock.
After doing a little research I've discovered its not the original motor or TH400 in it and that it was originally a m21 4 speed.
apart from that, it is entirely original (except wheels of coarse)

So my hunt has begun to source as much original or as close to parts as possible.
I'm looking to identify a rough cast date for a block, I have original accusation receipt and engine number but this doesn't give me a cast date.
The engine number is QT802610 ( hard to make out on receipt) and build date on the compliance plate says 10/77
I've punched in the vin on a vin decoder and it came back as a 78 however the date on the receipt was 11/77, Is this normal?
I'm currently enquiring about a qt block on eBay with a Feb 77 cast date and the engine number starts with QT86, Does this mean my block would have been cast before this date?

I'm reading all of these threads that people are able to match engine numbers with build dates and all sorts of things, however i'm un-able to find where they get there information, Is this something that is available to the public or is it simply someone with possession of ancient records?
I'm happy to do the research only finding it hard to find these records / info!

Thanks in advance for any help, I'm sure I'll have many more questions as I go

Cam

When I Picked it up
[img=]HZ Prem[/img]

Edited by user Wednesday, 5 July 2017 1:43:34 PM(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified

A friend of mine has a 78 HZ premier factory 308 4speed. It has factory dual exhaust factory gts dash and is a mint green colour inc roof

If the car was originally registered in Victoria, and you know the rego number Vicroads can and will supply a copy of the original registration application. This will give you an engine number, chassis number and other information.
I have some as far back as 1968 so it can be done.

A bloke in town ordered a Hz premier 253/4sp this had sports dash also very nice old car a Telstra worker bought it 2nd hand and had it for years, he wouldn't sell it to me when young and then disappeared, got told it was a runabout-shooting rig on a farm! Probably wrecked and scrapped now!
Also I have a parts car Kingswood sl it was 2 tone white over Caribbean L31 M21 chamois fabric interior would have been a really nice car new!

Bugger worrying about it not being an L31 M41 car! What you have is a very rare delete optioned HZ Premier, where someone has optioned the car heavily but delete optioned the auto transmission. It is also an optional rear axle which again is very rare, and in this case awful - a 308 4spd with a 3.08 rear axle is not nice to drive!

What you have is an HZ Premier sedan. Optioned with (that I can tell so far):

L31
GU4 rear axle
G80 LSD
C60 A/C
XW6 Metallic Group 1 (I think Atlantis Blue is Group 1).
U17 instruments
Delete M41 and replace with M21.
XS9 Cloth trim. Your 18X trim is Slate black with black Corniche cloth insert.

Probably has heaps of other options too like wheels, antenna etc.

You should get onto Holden Historical Services for a report! This car has its original engine number recorded too.

4 speed was No Cost Option, NCO, or Reduced Cost option, RCO, on Premier from HJ, depending on engine/auto combo, not a delete auto option. There are a few 4 speed Premiers around, but as Byron said, they are rare.

Holden Historic Services will only give a report if you have the original engine number, chassis number and body number. They will not supply if you do not have all of them.

NK3 is the sports steering wheel.
XW6 is standard/NCO on Premier.


Warren

Edited by user Friday, 30 June 2017 9:02:17 PM(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified

I think JM8 was standard on V8 Premier.

Did not realize he had the books, as the original statement was that he had a receipt with the HX engine number on it and that he researched to realize it was not the original engine. Simple look up in books would have given that.

Edited by user Saturday, 1 July 2017 10:31:43 AM(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified

JM8 in confusing Warren, it doesn't explicitly say anywhere that I can find that it comes along with a V8 engine if you option it in a Premier, not that I can find anywhere anyway. It may have become standard when L32 became the base engine in Premier? All I can find is later in Premier L32, N40 and XS9 became standard.

Later post down mention is made of original docs.

Curious why 3.08 diff with an M21 and 308 would be a bad option? As far as a highway cruiser goes, it would be 100% better than the lower diff. It might be a bit harder starting off in traffic all day, but no one is going to use a 40 year old premier like that these days.

I know of a factory 5 litre HZ SL station wagon. 4 speed, GTS dash and factory air, bucket seats. My neighbour owned it. He died and it sat in the shed for 20 years. An old pensioner moved into their cottage. He found it, convinced the widow to let him use it to drive from the homestead to his cottage as a bush basher. The V8 was costing to much in fuel so he got it pulled out and put a 6 in it!
By the time he had flogged it over the bush track for a few years it was completely buggered. The last I saw it the some local pig chasers got it and stripped it.
I promised HK I would get the tags years ago, but I couldn't get them.