Column shift 5Litre Monaro? Has to be column shift it is lower than about 80337KR-00300-H5. The 307 cannot be in the first 30, as HK era Pagewood V8 engine numbers were up to about 2400-2500 engine numbers by the time the first volume production HK Monaros were built at Pagewood. I can tell you 249-H5 had 3071254x. Volume GTS started in the 12600's. It is not uncommon to find early HK colours on early Monaro. We have found them in all of the early HK colours. Yours should have early windscreen pillars and badge holes in the inner quarters above the parcel shelf. Does it also have early door inner skins (like a HR pressing)?

Depending upon what Monaro (80337) build number it is it will probably be June 1968, body may possibly be May 1968. The Pagewood HK coupe pilots were scheduled for completion on 6th June 1968. These were:

186 manual 3.55 337
186 auto 3.36 337
307 auto 2.78 737

These will be 337-1-H5 and 337-2-H5 and 737-1-H5.

Mechanicals for these three cars were scheduled to leave Fisherman's bend on 20/5/68.

GMH really stuffed up with their sales predications of these base HK Monaros. They built huge amounts of them before volume GTS, and the public didn't want them, at least not as much as they wanted GTS's. And when they had to add significantly more GTS327's into the production schedule (for "qualification" reasons) they too all sold or were allocated off the schedule very quickly hence the need for the extra 300+ 327 engines required to see out HK. I have heard of many of these pre-GTS Monaros being still sold as new cars in 1969, some of them even in HK runout. They did the same with Brougham, they simply didn't sell in the volumes they predicted, this is almost certainly why there were so many 307 auto combinations left at the end of HK and they had to use them up in HT other than Brougham before they released 308 into the rest of HT.

The car under 00060-H5 and the motor under 2430. I've done the max I can research before I asked the question . I believe the car more rare than most gts because they where run of the mill cars by the end of production I've got a 327 gts in my family as well but this car is rare as fare as I can tell. Thank you for the info about the doors and holes in the rear pillars. But I'm not removing the hood lining as it still perfect . I've owned the car 28 years only started researching as I'm put the car up for sale after it get repainted

Thanks but I'd prefer to keep the fine detail to myself . I'm new to this forum thing and don't want the details of how low the numbers are out there

Thanks again I'll compare it when I have time as the cars are stored . I see what your saying but the car is low numbered and make it in the first of all built in pagewood . Plus it complete factor car in a colour that wasn't on the product colours and I haven't see a complete Mayan gold car yet

That correct but most of them cars are not complete or destroyed or customise. So there probably about 5% of them left . The truth is there less base models that gts and gts replicas. People wants a gts or gts look a like so base monaro are get less and less . Complete and factor are way more rare .

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There are a few Mayan Gold cars around still, but like so many never see the light of day anymore. Mayan Gold was on the colour list, but it was removed just before release, hence so many cars painted in it.

Warren

There was about 300 before GTS and GTS327 volume production started which was around the 1st week of July. My guess is they would be flat out building GTS, GTS327 and Brougham until the release so not huge amounts of Monaro. About 30% of Monaro would be Pagewood build so do the maths on 5500 total. I'll see what the highest number I have is.

Could be right but it won't make it more valuable than a near identical car in say Picardy Red built right at the end of HK or a similar car built at say Acacia Ridge.
Not sure of the significance of the 30th 307 used at Pagewood after coupe and Brougham production started is? The engines are identical to those installed back when the first pilot 307 HK was built. And there will have been a few V8 sedan, wagon, ute or van HK's assembled along with all the Broughams and any V8 Monaros.
One day we will get all the production records and know exactly how many V8 Monaro are before yours at Pagewood. Probably count them on your fingers. We do know how many 307 and 327 engines there were though in between known cars, like I have 337-249-H5's engine number, chassis number and PSN, and we have plenty of other HK's before yours and in between. What we don't know though is how many CKD Impala and Parisienne there are.

Is Ben Stewart's a real early, like the first month of the HT GTS Monaro to of got that 4speed manual box with a 307.

Of the handful of those first 300 odd Pagewood HK Monaro that are currently known of yours is the 4th in 1167 Mayan Gold. The others are numbers 11, 116 and 202. Remember this is maybe only from 20 odd known cars, extrapolate that out to 300 cars and how many colours there were (Eden blue, Ermine white, Kingston cream, Mako blue, Mayan gold and Picardy red) and you are looking at maybe 50-60 cars from Pagewood. There will be similar % amounts from other plants too, plus the odd "other" colour Monaro - I have a pre-GTS Acacia Ridge Monaro in Woodsman green, it is a 186, 3spd, LSD example. It is possibly a 1/1 build in that colour and configuration but it is destined to be a panel repair donor for one of my GTS327's.