I can email you a pic of the three tags if you want
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A two-tone Belmont van would be a special fleet order, as Belmonts are not normally available with a two-tone paint scheme.

Is the white colour Kashmir White & the first part of the trim number 1172 ?

Dr Terry

My error, 1722 it is !!

Yes, 568 11401 is Kashmir White.

Dr Terry

As mentioned in another thread I have a 5/70 HG Panel Van which, I believe, is the Van in the HG Panel Van Sales Brochure. I was told it was the 13th vehicle in the Restricted Volume Production of the HG Range and was the first Panel Van in Adelaide in May 1970 by Ben from Holden Historical Services. Thanks Ben.
The original Engine Number is 161H322145. Let me know if you've seen this engine? It was removed in May 1980 and in July 1980 it was fitted to a HR Panel Van with the rego number of JTR 325. This info came from AOMC after their volunteers searched through 6,000 Victorian Rego Cards!!!! Thank you to AOMC.
The Tags show Chassis Number HG00013A and Body Number 1A. It is Sudan Beige with Antique Gold. I believe it left the factory with a 161, 3 speed manual, drum brakes all round and a bench seat as it shows a bench seat in the brochure. The tags also show seating capacity 2. (1801-11A Bench Seat). I purchased a premier for the bucket seats years ago before Ben set me straight about the bench seat. There aren't any inner bolt holes for Bucket Seats in the floor pan. Only the bench seat holes.
It needs a full restoration. Currently it is fitted with a 186 and trimatic, auto pedal box and column along with front discs with a small booster (torana size).
I have just read through all the posts relating to HG Panel Van Production and all the discussion about 308 with 3 speed boxes etc.
I am still looking for any info, video, pics or otherwise showing the HK HT HG Production Line. There is plenty around for FX FJ EH etc but not much for HK HT HG.
The first rego number was KST 093 (Victorian) and the last known rego number was NAE 716 (Victorian) around the mid 90's I think. If anyone has any pics of this Van at any time of it's life I would appreciate seeing them and will happily pay for any copies.
It was fist registered in 9/70. I don't know how long GMH kept the Van before selling it.
I bought it from Quambatook in Victoria, however, the Van was 'rescued' from a wrecker in Warrigal Road at Sandown in the early 90's when it was in the line of cars being crushed that day.
It drives well but requires many rust repairs and removal of the station wagon rear seat..... and replacement of the rear cargo area that was cut away to fit the seat. The last cross member above the spare wheel was also removed as the spare wheel door was screwed shut with a station wagon trap door fitted. It is missing the spare wheel tail door lock. It also had a large hole roughly cut into the RH front panel near the headlight to fit an oil cooler.
I won't begin restoring it for a long time yet but at least I have it. Any info would be appreciated.
Thanks in advance.
Ron

I'm not sure if the A=bench would apply to this as it would have been built during HT production and thus used HT trim coding. So in this case 11A would be used for bench or buckets. I might be wrong, but if I remember my HT-HG trim codes right this would be the case.

Cool to own a brochure car. The HX Sandman ute brochure car is/was still around, someone here owned it I think

Is it Dandenong assembly or Elizabeth assembly? The only thing different will be a Dandenong VIN plate if it was assembled there, it would still wear Elizabeth ADR tag, BODY tag and chassis number.

Hi again. The Vin plate shows 80170IL150143. Some one has painted the firewall right over all tags and I have cleaned them up enough to read the numbers and letters. How do you tell Dandenong or Elizabeth assembly? I thought it would be Elizabeth as it is HG00013A with Body Number 1A.
Thank you.
Ron

That is an Elizabeth VIN so it was assembled at Elizabeth. It cannot be an I in it either, has to be G (for HG) or if another stuff-up possibly a T (for HT). Elizabeth sent painted and hard trimmed HK-HG van bodies to Dandenong, Pagewood and Mosman Park for assembly. The bodies got an Elizabeth ADR plate, Elizabeth chassis number and Elizabeth body plate. If it was assembled at another location it would get a VIN plate from the assembly plant, so if it was Dandenong assembled it'd have a VIN plate that reads 80170GJxxxxxx

Following is an email I received from Ben at HHS. I think the Vin should read 80170GL150143. I have included any known info in the email in(Brackets). After Ben's email I have added more.
It has a rear seat fitted as the floor pans are shared between station wagon, ute and van. Some of the cargo floor had been removed to fit the seat. The seats will be removed and the cargo floor replaced during restoration. The rear crossmember has been gas axed out as the spare wheel door was screwed shut and a station wagon floor piece above the spare was used. I think I will have access to a crossmember soon.....
Also included is my 48 215 Poem.

Hi Ron,

Thank you for visiting HHS and for your enquiry.

Thank you also for your fabulous poem about the Holden car. I can
vaguely recall seeing this at the Lang Lang event way back in 1998 as I
caught up with Don Loffler and we commented about quite a few 48-215s
present. There were so many awesome cars to look at over the weekend
that I can't recall your car off the top of my head I'm afraid. Your
permission to distribute your poem is much appreciated, and when/where
appropriate I will do so.

This HG panel van you have is a very significant Holden on numerous
levels. First up, it is one of the HG Holden Restricted volume run
produced in May 1970. All these initial HG Holdens were built at the
Elizabeth plant as had been the case previously with many other model
series. The normal process was to run two dozen or so vehicles that
comprised at least one of every variant in the line-up. Several others
are known to survive from this run including the top-of-the-line Monaro
GTS 350 model. These vehicles are actually the ones to feature in all
the HG Holden sales brochures and other advertising material. In some
instances, there are minor deviations in vehicle specifications present
due to the build time period.

I assume that you have checked the chassis number appearing on the ADR
Safety Compliance plate matches exactly with the stamping in the
firewall. (It Does) The date identified should read 5-70, but it is possible it
may be 6-70 (It reads 5/70) depending on exactly when this vehicle was completed to the
point where the plate was fitted. A seating capacity of '2' indicates
R.P.O. A50 (bucket seats) exercised. (No Options are listed) The GVW figure identified will be
either the full capacity of 4450 lbs. if standard tyres were fitted, or
a de-rated capacity of 3870 lbs. if optional PP9 or P53 passenger car
tyres were fitted. (4370LBS is stamped on the plate)

The Body ID plate identifies this bodyshell as HG80170 number one
manufactured at Elizabeth. Each Model in the HG range started at '1-A'
at the Elizabeth plant. Therefore, there are in fact 24 vehicles that
will all have the Body Number of '1-A' on the Body ID plate. The Vehicle
Serial Number (aka chassis number) of 'HG00013A' indicates that this
bodyshell was #13 in the HG Restricted volume sequence. The first
production (as opposed to prototype) HG Holden was 'HG000001A'. Out of
interest, the first GTS 350 was 'HG00010A'.

The Body ID plate will also reveal the original colour 868-18206) and trim
combination featured. Panel vans were only available in a base range of
solid (non-metallic) colours unless a special order was raised and a
fleet colour was applied. A standard bench seat example will feature an
interior trim ending in 'A' whilst a bucket seat example will end in
'B'. (1801-11A Bench Seat)

In the production process, the bodyshell is manufactured first and then
the painted and hard-trimmed shell is put on the assembly line where it
becomes a complete car. Just because a particular bodyshell may be the
first one manufactured doesn't always mean it will be the first
finished, first painted, etc., and ultimately the first to be assembled
with all the mechanicals and so on, and then the first off the line.
Many factors influence the order of production.

The VIN for your van should be in the region of 80170GL149??? if it was
on schedule. (80170GL150143)


If you have an HG Holden Commercial brochure, you may identify your van
in it, as I do know the GTS 350 I mentioned above is the actual car
featured in the HG Monaro range brochure.

I hope this is of some use to you. Please feel free to ask any questions
regarding your Holden.

Kind regards,
Ben.



ADR PLATE:
4 5A 7
HOLDEN
HG PANEL VAN
5/70 HG00013A (FIREWALL STAMPING IS THE SAME HG00013A)
4370lbs SEATING CAP 2

BODY PLATE:
MODEL: HG80170
BODY: 1-A
TRIM: 1801-11A
PAINT: 868-1820(?)

VIN: 80170GL150143

The paint number in brackets looks as though it has been stamped twice so the last digit could been stamped 0, 6, 8 or 9? The firewall area has been painted at some time in its life and the Tags were painted over with the same black as the firewall. The exterior colour was beige when I purchased it and I believe it was the original colour.
The van is windowless.





1948 48 2 1 5


Way back in 1948,
a car rolled off the line.
The day Australia waited for,
November 29.

Ben Chifley was Prime Minister,
the Leader of the day.
He ushered in what soon became
an icon here to stay.

It gained a reputation
being rugged on the land.
But Holden couldn’t build enough
to satisfy demand.

People bought them 'Sight Unseen',
from any Dealer who.
Would let them be the leader of,
that quickly growing queue.

And then in 1951,
a coupe ute was released.
It soon became the 'Tradesman’s Choice',
the others were 'Deceased'.

1953 was when
the 'Air-ride' came along.
Though still a '48 2 1 5'
it sang an 'FJ' song.

It came with telescopic shocks
and wider rear springs too.
For as the name implies my friend,
'They Rode the Air with You'.

Now some say: "FX Holden"
and some say: "Saints Alive”.
But a 'Rose will always be a Rose'
like '48 2 1 5'!!


C Ron Williams 29th November 1998
[email protected]