Hi AusJacko,

The only pictures that I have seen are located in a HG Owners Manual that was given with all the new cars. It has quite comprehensive Diagrams. I'm not sure if these are the pictures you are referring too.

Rare Spares has the HK Supplementary manual for Monaro, maybe there is something in that.

Also
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Right, should have checked my books first I guess.

The HT Shop Manual Supplement confirms what I wrote above mostly (here we go I hear you say).

Page 10-2 depicts the Brougham with rim facing to the guard and a jack pushing out from the chassis rail, with the L shaped end through the centre hole in the rim. A bolt with a hook is attached (hook up) through the rear most bracket on the chassis rail, through a wheel stud hole on the rim and secured with a wing nut on the guard side. The jack handle is sandwiched between the chassis rail and tyre with the hinged end to the rear of the car and the crank handle down in the tyre recess.

10-3 shows the sedan and coupe EXCEPT when fitted with 185-14, 7.35-14 or D70-14 tyres, using the clamp and jack against the wheel arch bracket. In this configuration the rim faces into the boot (valve to boot), the clamp (bolted into a captive nut above the inner lip of the rear drivers side) holds the tyre on the tread. The base of the jack is on the forward facing patch of the tyre tread and the L shaped end is pushing against the bracket above the wheel arch near the hood hinge mount. The jack handle is between the rim and guard, with the hinged end into a hole at the rear of the wheel well and the crank handle through the frame

AND page 10-4 Sedan or coupe when fitted with 185-14, 7.35-14 or D70-14 tyres with the rim facing out toward the guard and the bolt with a hook and wing nut are used (hook facing up) into the rear most bracket. The jack base pushes against the chassis rail, with the L shaped end hooked under the lip in the rim around where the wheel stud holes are. The jack handle sits between the rim and chassis rail, with the hinged end facing rearward and the crank handle passing over the hooked bolt, being sandwiched between the tyre and front sloped bracket.

Edited by user Sunday, 30 September 2018 1:25:05 PM(UTC)  | Reason: made it accurate

That's a bigger subject than you know Ian!
No photos I'm afraid. Its just too hard on this forum now.

For HK it seems the wheel nut face points to the inside for all tyres, with the jack wedged up high to the front for 6" tyres and a threaded "J" bolt in one of the wheel nut holes to the centre wheel bracket on the inner rail. Smaller tyes use a clamp and bolt on the periphery of the wheel and tyre assembly, to the rear of the boot threaded into a weld nut.

With this arrangement 6" wheels and D70 tyres the wheel/tyre barely fits into the spare wheel recess, and even then often does not drop to the bottom of the wheel well. With reproduction D70, and with 205/70 tyres it will not fit without large amounts of deflation and persuasion. The wheel is canted into the boot at an extreme angle to allow the boot to close.

For HT the fit situation is the same, but that the 6" wheels now have the wheel nut face facing the outside of the car and the jack is wedged between the centre wheel bracket and the centre of the wheel, living inside the recess in the wheel centre. A longer "J" bolt (longer than HK, that is) clamps it in the same way as HK. The comments regarding wheel fit in the wheel well equally apply.

About mid HT the design of the inner RH quarter panel gusset changed with the bottom 6" bent towards the outside of the car about 10 degrees. This opens up the wheel well and allows the wheel to drop to the bottom of the well. This change happened in both sedan and coupe body styles. I'm not sure about Brougham.

After that change the wheel/tyre fits more easily, although the orientation is unchanged.

This problem started appearing for me in the early 1980s when we started using 205/70-14 tyres in place of D70-14. They are not exactly the same, although are often claimed to be. The nominal sectional width (maximum inflated width) of the tyre for a D70-14 is, depending on who you believe, a little under 200mm. The reproduction D70s around now are a little over 200mm. A 205/70 is 205mm. The design of the early wheel wells is such that later tyres are a struggle to fit, but the situation is a little bit better with the wheel nut face facing the inside of the boot.

Here are a few images of the mounting brackets on my car with one of the original six inch rims. I put a 205 ?? tyre on this rim but it wouldn't fit so now have a 185 on it. There was no j bolt? type of fastener with the car when I got it in 1975, but hope to locate one in the future

I am also trying to get my new spare wheel to fit the well, was thinking of taking out the small rectangle piece of metal at the bottom of the well to amke new tyres fit better. I am tracking down a long j bolt as i only have my original wingnut.I will try and fit my tyre with the front of the tyre facing towards the panel and see how I go with the jack and all

Not directly related to this topic I have added these photos of one of the original rims and one of the michelin tyres that were on the car when I bought it in 1975. This is the only remaining tire as the rest were removed to save space for transport.