As far as I'm aware those GM-H tender documents are very thin on the ground.
If my memory serves me correctly Ben told me that is the only tender document he had at that point in time.
Did you do the FOI search on your original rego number with VICroads?
Did they supply you with a copy of the original registration application forms with the registered owners personal details blacked out?

I've only ever seen two of those Tenders, and the one you mention is one of them.

I'm actually very surprised that GMH even know what any of their dealer codes were from 1972. They can no longer reliably read their own Service/Warranty 'fiche records.

When GMH moved to a new warranty system mid 1978 they had their IBM 360 mainframe print a report to paper for the current vehicles and had it and prior printed reports for earlier vehicle series converted to Microfiche. Those ‘fiche records are all that is currently available and what GMH and HHS uses. The info Ben gave you is off the ‘fiche. As far as I am aware there is four copies in existence.

The 255 code meaning given to you by Balfizar will mean that the car was an employee’s car so finding it’s history will be tough. GMH allowed employees to buy cars very cheap so many took it up.

Thx HK and 8D11,

HK, Understood on the Fiche records and the 255 code from what ive learnt would have been different at the time of the sale in 1973 to the employee than the 255 code prior to the build in 1972 due to the internal numbers being static until altered for a given circumstance (ref Balfizar).

I have asked Balfizar if he has any records of the 255 Code attached to the vehicle prior to being built 1n 72 as I have been told that there was no approval required from a zone office for the C.T.V attached to the car and it would be interesting to see what it was for a possible narrowing of the net.

I called GM again today with a question after the (Nice) lady I spoke with yesterday sent me an email informing me that there is no record on their system attached to the VIN as she was going to give me an authenticity certificate free of charge. The Auth certificate would have not given me any more information than has already been given to me by Ben at HHS but I thought why not as she offered.

I was connected through to a Different (not so nice) lady which abruptly informed me that the line ends here due to the VIN search not showing anything with no more information available and then went on to give me the old Fire story in which all of their records were lost ect ect.

Its seems funny to me as the (Nice) lady yesterday was able to give me a Dealer Code and the address attached to the code which completely contradicts what the (not so nice) lady told me today.

Buggered if I know whats going on at GM with regards to information release as im certain that they have a lot more available to the general public than they are letting on and im wondering if the old "FOI" could be called upon for potential release of any hidden data applicable to the owners of vehicles within their records.

8D11, Thx for the warning and I will just add the receipt for the FOI application to the top of the pile of ever growing pile of existing receipts attached to this Kingswood utility.

For the Newbies on this forum like me, If you call GM for any information regarding your car make sure you speak with the NICE lady named Sam as she is genuinely willing to help. She also told me what you get in the authenticity certificate and it is no where near as comprehensive as the one you get from the Holden Historical Services with regards to Information pertaining to your car.

What I have stated above was not intended in away as a plug for HSS Im just stating a straight up fact from my recent experience in chasing Information and will hopefully save someone some time.

Cheers

Thx Mick,

It would appear to make the whole authentic certificate thing is a bit of sham if people can put whatever they like on the certificate and it could potentially lead to somebody paying way to much for a vehicle that isn't what it seems. But as you say it would be a nice thing to have if all the dots line up for ones own records.

Unfortunately for myself the ownership of a nice certificate with a GM letterhead will not come to fruition as apparently my car doesn't exist within the GM system.

The FOI search will hopefully give me the registration postcodes like you received which may give me a place to pinpoint a possible dealer/service sticker that is still in place on the centre back window of the utilitys cab.

Im not sure if its a dealer sticker as its very faded but the outline of the decal is still evident. Ive searched pretty hard online trying find any old dealer/service stickers with the same rough outline but no luck as yet.

From the code information Balfizar gave me stating the sale of the vehicle going to an employee I would assume that the car would have been serviced initially at the GM-H Experimental garage which apparently serviced the Experimental Engineering fleet along with the internal cars and possibly also employees cars depending on who you were.

After it was moved on maybe it went through a dealer and with any luck the sticker (if it is a dealer sticker) may help to pinpoint the location for that given time.

Not sure if anyone can id the sticker below?

Hi Sandaro,

Im not sure? will have a look for some old Bob Jane decals to see if they match.

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Hi 8D11,

Much appreciated for asking Ben a question regarding my ute and letting me know.

Ben has helped me out heaps with any questions ive had regarding the utility and stated from the onset after acquiring the HHS report that any questions ive got he will endeavor to answer going well beyond just the report for assistance, legend.

I can't thank him enough as well as all you guys on this forum for assisting me with gaining knowledge on the subject of the Holden vehicle and also trying to assist with narrowing down the Chateau Mauve utes history, its been epic.

Ben has mentioned the motor shows as well as a few other possibilities to which the ute could have been built for with the playing field being very broad. Ive been scouring the various forums (In particular HKs posts) looking for any info surrounding the above mentioned possibility's and the dates surrounding the sandman prototypes.

Im having trouble getting any archival footage of the Melb motor show in 72 or through that era of any of the shows in SA, NSW ect referencing the GM-H displays. Ive been in touch with a few photographers with no luck. Joe Felice gave me a name of a guy that used to follow GM-H through-out that time and apparently he had given most of photos to someone else?? with it all becoming a little to difficult so I severed the tie. Unfortunately there is not enough time in the day to chase all of these people down as most of them are retired and I don't want to harass them in their retirement for a few photos of a Kingswood ute.

Will start a new post reaching out for some photos or possible magazine articles that might show the car.

Fingers crossed on the FOI and thx again 8D11.

The shape looks a bit like Hages, but that would mean the car was in SA at some point.

Does not seem to be Muirs or Hage
Muirs has bar across the bottom.
Hage is oblong. Dealer wallet normally matches the window sticker

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