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#1 Posted : Monday, 26 April 2021 12:40:02 PM(UTC)
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There are some historical questions about GM-H export.

1. I know that in the 50s and early 60s Holden exported cars to the USA (Hawaii). When did Holden stop selling cars there? My guess is that the HG was last Holden sold in Hawaii, but maybe they stopped it even earlier?

2. Holdens were officially sold in Malta (70's and 80's). Was Malta the only European market for GM-H? When did they stopped export cars to Europe (exclude HSV branded as Vauxhall in 2000's)?
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#2 Posted : Monday, 26 April 2021 1:45:42 PM(UTC)
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I have a copy of a letter sent to Max Wilson from Harlow Gage on 28th March 1967 congratulating GMH on their 100,000th Export Holden. The 100,000th export Holden went to Thailand, it was a big ceremony at Pagewood. The Export Territories at the time were:

Aden
*Angola
*Bahrain
Botswana
Barbados
Grenada
Guyana
Brunei
Cameroons
Ceylon
*Chile
Congo
Cook Islands
Cyprus
Fiji
French Somaliland
Ghana
*Greece
*Guam
*Hawaii
Hong Kong
India
&Indonesia
*Iran
*Iraq
Jamaica
Japan
*Jordan
Kenya
*Kuwait
*Laos
*Lebanon
Liberia
*Libya
Macao
Malawi
Malaysia
Mauritius
*Mozambique
*New Caledonia
*New Hebrides
&New Zealand
Nigeria
Pakistan
*Panama
&*Philippines
*Qatar
*Saipan
*Samoa
St. Lucia
*Saudi Arabia
Singapore
Somalia
&South Africa
&South West Africa
Sudan
*Syria
*Tahiti
*Taiwan
Tanzania
Thailand
Tobago
Tonga
Trinidad
Uganda
Zambia

* is LHD Territories
& is CKD Territories.

I think the HK was the last Holden exported to Hawaii, but HG was the last LHD Holden for a long time as HQ was never tooled for LHD despite the car it was based upon being LHD. There were LHD Torana after HG though. The export markets shrank a lot during the 70's.

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#3 Posted : Monday, 26 April 2021 3:06:03 PM(UTC)
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I understand there were also CKD assembly plants for Holdens in Pakistan & also Trinidad & Tobago.

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#4 Posted : Monday, 26 April 2021 4:50:12 PM(UTC)
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In that list Terry Trinidad and Tobago are listed as separate export territories (to make the list look bigger maybe?), so they must have started CKD builds after it was published. I have seen pictures of a few Trinidad assembled W size Holden, not yet seen plates off one. Pakistan may be the same.
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#5 Posted : Tuesday, 27 April 2021 1:38:45 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: HK1837 Go to Quoted Post
Why does your profile say you are in St Petersburg, Russian Federation?

Because I'm from St. Petersburg (Russia).Smile

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In that list Terry Trinidad and Tobago are listed as separate export territories (to make the list look bigger maybe?), so they must have started CKD builds after it was published. I have seen pictures of a few Trinidad assembled W size Holden, not yet seen plates off one. Pakistan may be the same.

The book "On a Global Mission: The Automobiles of General Motors International Volume" says that Holdens were assembled by Neal and Massy Industries from 1967 until early 1970's (included Statesman DeVille badged as Chevrolet Caprice).

I also found this news (late 1980):

Quote:
The shipment of Commodore SL
sedans and wagons and Statesman de Vills are to be off-loaded in Trinidad at Port of Spain for transportation to GMH's retail outlet, Southern Sales & Service at San Fernando. More than 7,000 GMH vehicles have been shipped to Trinidad since the company began exporting to that country in 1961. And because of the volume potential in Trinidad GMH is planning Commodore assembly there next year through a local assembly company.


https://drive.google.com...cJDyEXG_ko84HniGgUe/view

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#6 Posted : Friday, 14 May 2021 10:58:30 AM(UTC)
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I found this document: https://drive.google.com...fO7-9g6EGhq348jjLh_/view

Was Statesman HQ actually sold in UK?
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#7 Posted : Friday, 14 May 2021 2:58:02 PM(UTC)
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I don't think the Vauxhall Statesman made it to production, if it did it wasn't for very long as XV1 was re-used as early as late 1974 for LH Gpack, which is the date on the part number 2823800 which is the Engineering drawing for LH Gpack stripes.
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#9 Posted : Sunday, 13 March 2022 11:21:01 AM(UTC)
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I found a package for VL Commodores - XW2 (SOUTH AFRICAN VEHICLE PACKAGE). VL was exported to South Africa? Or is it a mistake?
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Remember seeing a couple of HK sedans on the road, mainland Greece when I was working there in the early 90s.
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Originally Posted by: Torana1978 Go to Quoted Post
I found a package for VL Commodores - XW2 (SOUTH AFRICAN VEHICLE PACKAGE). VL was exported to South Africa? Or is it a mistake?


Yep XW2 was the GMSA South Africa vehicle package code

a few others
XW1 Philippines
XV9 Korean
XX3 New Zealand
XX4 Thailand
XX5 Malaysia
XU7 Chevrolet 350 package, South Africa
XU5 South Africa police car HG
XU4 Japan export requirements code

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XU7 wasn't just South Africa Wayne. It was for CKD in all export territories and also as a local consular car.

There was heaps of those codes. XX8 is another (Isuzu)
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