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#1 Posted : Friday, 24 November 2017 8:46:04 PM(UTC)
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It's been discussed on a few topics that there are some really shit jobs when we're dealing with what we love to do.
Who's had the shittiest job to get the old girl going?
oops should've probably been in off topic discussion so the Ford boys could have a go too.

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#2 Posted : Friday, 24 November 2017 10:41:20 PM(UTC)
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Any job on a Ford Escort -hated those things.
Clutch on a 180B, gearbox always jams on the tunnel.
Clutch on Nissan Patrols / Ford Mavericks because you can't split the transfer case from the gearbox and need about three big jacks to balance it on the right angles.
Wiper pivot on a HJ - up through the bottom of the dash and no room to move a spanner.
Power steering box on a XC Ford V8 with extractors
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#3 Posted : Saturday, 25 November 2017 8:17:17 AM(UTC)
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Land Rovers......The Poms had no idea of how to make anything easy to work on.....
The old girls had a positive earth for crying out loud.
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#4 Posted : Saturday, 25 November 2017 10:04:50 AM(UTC)
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Pommy and Italian cars feature highly on my 3-2-1 countdown list.

3/ Maserati Merak SS Timing chain. All available manuals in Italian and French, so many things to wrap it around, and so many bad things to happen when you get it wrong. And $800 head gaskets.

2/ Anything under the bonnet of a 420G Daimler or the Jag equivalent on the induction side. No room and so many sharp edges to cut you and cable ends to poke you.

1/ Fiat X1/9 master cylinder. Mounted inside the car high up under the dash. Several hours of back breaking fun standing on your head with legs poking out of the sunroof.
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#5 Posted : Sunday, 26 November 2017 6:19:09 PM(UTC)
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As Dave has said, Anything on a Mk 1 or 2 Escort. Especially the ones with that wheezy gutless pig 1300/1600 crossflow. The two litres were better.
On the GM side, plug replacement with hot engine on a HQ-WB V8 with air & steer.
Almost anything British/French or Italian too.
Attn camry drivers. The accelerator is the skinny pedal on the right.
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#6 Posted : Sunday, 26 November 2017 10:59:45 PM(UTC)
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Keeping it all GMH.... and the cars that I know well

- Dropping the sump on a VB-VS Commodore. PITA dropping all the K-frame & steering.
- Fitting extractors to any V8 Commodore....
- Trying to get a motor & box (combined) into a VL with its much smaller tunnel. Likewise trying to undo bellhousing bolts when the whole lot is still in the car.
- Changing # 1 plug on a VK-VL V8 with aircon & the factory compressor bracket. I almost always break the top off the plug trying to undo it.
- Pressing out front balljoints on VB-VP. Sometimes you get lucky, but most times they're a real pig.
- VB-VK clutch cable...
- Bolt from the steering column into the pedal frame in VB-VL (without pulling half the dash out to get access).
- Changing the heater core in a VK-VL (which requires pulling pretty much all the dash out)

And the # 1 for me is not dirty, just bloody difficult (and almost never gets refitted - resulting in rattles).
Undoing the LH one of the 3x 10mm nuts that secure the crash pad into a VC or VH with Air-international aircon, without removing almost the entire A/C system first.
Thankfully you only need to crack it & spin it a few turns, as the bracket is slotted, but it's almost impossible to get a socket up in there. 1/2" drive are too big. 1/4" drive extension bars will fit, but the 10mm socket is too shallow for the protruding stud. Years ago I bought a 3/8" set, and I've kept the extension bar & 10mm socket, along with a 1/2 to 3/8 drive adapter, just for this job.
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#7 Posted : Monday, 27 November 2017 8:37:21 AM(UTC)
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Numbers 6 and 8 spark plug on a HK to HG with Chevrolet engine.
Rear passenger side engine mount on automatic Camira.
Allen key bolts on Camira power steering pump, you need three extensions and two universals to undo the last one.
sump off a G161 Gemini to replace timing chain.
Inlet manifold on G161 Gemini.
Rear welsh plug grey motor.
Not shitty but stupid design, radiator on a VZ V8.
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#8 Posted : Monday, 27 November 2017 9:36:53 PM(UTC)
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Welsh plug in the back of the head on an XP Falcon. No room between the head and firewall.
Last one I did I cut a hole about 50mm in the firewall with a holesaw from inside the car and hammered the new welsh plug in from under the dash. Behind the LH kick panel is a rubber bung pushed into the frame that was a perfect fit to use to plug the holesaw cut in the firewall. Owner was a mate who didn't mind!
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#9 Posted : Wednesday, 29 November 2017 7:24:06 AM(UTC)
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I still defy anyone to find anything worse to try and do by yourself, than greasing the drive universal joint on a 743 or 743B Bobcat. I you were built like a small Asian person but with arms like a 6’5” person, have a 6’ long grease hose and an assistant then maybe it’d be easier. These machines (and the 643 & 843) have one major fault, and that is these uni joints failed and smashed the hydrostatic pump. The reason they failed was people failed to grease them as it is too hard.
The worst car related ones for me (but not as bad as the Bobcat) are:

Changing an LH-LX brake booster without removing the dashboard.
Removing the exhaust manifold bolts and fitting extractors to a 2005-2015 Hilux with the good engine.
Removing and replacing the LH exhaust manifold on a HJ-HZ 308 auto with air (to repair broken flange studs).

The second two are far easier with a hoist, but you still have to be a contortionist and need an array of spanners and sockets and uni joints, plus feel rather than see.
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#10 Posted : Wednesday, 29 November 2017 8:22:36 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: HK1837 Go to Quoted Post
I still defy anyone to find anything worse to try and do by yourself, than greasing the drive universal joint on a 743 or 743B Bobcat. I you were built like a small Asian person but with arms like a 6’5” person, have a 6’ long grease hose and an assistant then maybe it’d be easier. These machines (and the 643 & 843) have one major fault, and that is these uni joints failed and smashed the hydrostatic pump. The reason they failed was people failed to grease them as it is too hard.
The worst car related ones for me (but not as bad as the Bobcat) are:

Changing an LH-LX brake booster without removing the dashboard.
Removing the exhaust manifold bolts and fitting extractors to a 2005-2015 Hilux with the good engine.
Removing and replacing the LH exhaust manifold on a HJ-HZ 308 auto with air (to repair broken flange studs).

The second two are far easier with a hoist, but you still have to be a contortionist and need an array of spanners and sockets and uni joints, plus feel rather than see.


Maybe the best uni join is the ones without the grease nipple, so no one does over grease them, I think that's the main problem and to be able to hear it coming before the click is the trick, once you over do it then the seal is buggered, water and muck can get in and that makes it a must do grease job constantly and it's roo ted before you know it.
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#11 Posted : Wednesday, 29 November 2017 9:14:36 AM(UTC)
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Bobcat uni is not a traditional one, has 3x nipples on it, but the same principles would apply. Almost impossible to know when enough grease is in.
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#12 Posted : Thursday, 1 August 2019 11:21:30 PM(UTC)
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As an apprentice I got all the crap jobs but I think that it made me a better tradesman for it . That said , I think that one of the worst jobs I was given at the time was a total rebuild od a automatic transmission on a BMC six cylinder Marina . I had only just started my fourth year as an apprentice and it was an all Holden dealership . it was let us say a challenge .
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#13 Posted : Thursday, 1 August 2019 11:27:20 PM(UTC)
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It wasn't really that hard a job but changing the plugs on a v8 Torana was hard on the hands late on a Friday afternoon when all the boys raced each other home from the westcoast mines in Tassie . A wheel alignment wasn't ideal either , changing the shims .
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It wasn't really that hard a job but changing the plugs on a v8 Torana was hard on the hands late on a Friday afternoon when all the boys raced each other home from the westcoast mines in Tassie . A wheel alignment wasn't ideal either , changing the shims .


Just one plug was a bit of a bother but you come at it by turning the steering wheel hard right and come at it from their.

But anyroad the car I now have just to be able to see the water pump belt is hard let alone be buggered if I can get me hands in their.
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#15 Posted : Thursday, 19 August 2021 9:56:24 AM(UTC)
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I can't say that I had a shitty job so far, because if I didn't like the attitude of the employee, I won't hesitate to leave that job. Most of the times I am getting bored when the job is a based on a routine, when you have to do one and the same thing again and again. I like when I am getting involved in different projects and I can actually try something new. For these reasons, I became a freelancer, bought some used machinery from kitmondo.com and started to work for myself, with the customers from different parts of the country.

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#16 Posted : Thursday, 19 August 2021 4:28:52 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: HK1837 Go to Quoted Post
I still defy anyone to find anything worse to try and do by yourself, than greasing the drive universal joint on a 743 or 743B Bobcat. I you were built like a small Asian person but with arms like a 6’5” person, have a 6’ long grease hose and an assistant then maybe it’d be easier. These machines (and the 643 & 843) have one major fault, and that is these uni joints failed and smashed the hydrostatic pump. The reason they failed was people failed to grease them as it is too hard.
The worst car related ones for me (but not as bad as the Bobcat) are:

Changing an LH-LX brake booster without removing the dashboard.
Removing the exhaust manifold bolts and fitting extractors to a 2005-2015 Hilux with the good engine.
Removing and replacing the LH exhaust manifold on a HJ-HZ 308 auto with air (to repair broken flange studs).

The second two are far easier with a hoist, but you still have to be a contortionist and need an array of spanners and sockets and uni joints, plus feel rather than see.


sounds difficult but tried heater core on a SAAB 9000T....
NOT done from inside the car but from the engine bay!d'oh!

first you remove the turbo exhaust system (yup inc its own separate oil supply setup) followed by the entire FI system -lines, hoses etc
then cam timing system (two special tools required.. special order from factory spares dept overseas, thankfully I know before) inc cogs and belts
then separate engine from auto trans a frag, and undo one engine mount

why this?... silly me, of course to then remove the cylinder head which is done by tilting engine block about 15deg forward
all done so far?... right!

then you remove PART OF THE FIREWALL Anxious from inside the engine bay and ... oh lordy, look! finlly, the heater core and HVAC case Dancing
Remove both thru hole in firewall and R&R the heater core .. and go into reverse to install/replace .

Factory service book says allow 18 hours from start to finish.. took me a week Brick wall

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#17 Posted : Monday, 6 September 2021 10:48:55 PM(UTC)
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I worked for a while as a pest control worker. So, I would say that this is the worse job ever I have ever had. But as for the cars, I don't think I have anything to say. I am very passionate about cars and technology. And recently, I discovered my passion for vinyl cutters machines. I bought one for my wife to create personalized mugs. This is her hobby.We found a wide variety of cars on this website improvecraft.com

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#18 Posted : Friday, 21 January 2022 3:58:32 AM(UTC)
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Sometimes it's not about the type of work you have, but the way your boss treats you. For as long as I can remember, I hated one of my college jobs; I mean the jobs when I was still young when I had to cut metal on my own. It is not the worst thing I have ever done, but how my director treated me was awful. I remember how I later came up across https://swindens.co.uk/h...-5-essential-elements/, and suddenly I felt a smell of displeasure because of all of the memories that a bench vice can bring me. The way my boss treated me made me hate the work I was doing, even though I liked it initially. Yeah, that was my worst professional experience!
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Sometimes it's not about the type of work you have, but the way your boss treats you. For as long as I can remember, I hated one of my college jobs; I mean the jobs when I was still young when I had to cut metal on my own. It is not the worst thing I have ever done, but how my director treated me was awful. I remember how I later came up across https://swindens.co.uk/heavy-duty-bench-vice-5-essential-elements-betpokies, and suddenly I felt a smell of displeasure because of all of the memories that a bench vice can bring me. The way my boss treated me made me hate the work I was doing, even though I liked it initially. Yeah, that was my worst professional experience!


You are right. It's often about the boss. If the boss has a bad attitude, then a good job will not be fun either. But if he treats you well, you can do a job you don't like with pleasure.

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#20 Posted : Friday, 1 April 2022 7:06:57 AM(UTC)
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I can explain why Ford's automatic transmissions often break down. Initially, automatic transmissions used conventional motor oils, which had to be changed frequently. In this case, the quality of shifting gears was extremely low.
In 1949, General Motors developed a special liquid for automatic transmissions, ATF-A, which was used in all automatic transmissions produced in the world.
In 1957, the specification was revised and named Type A Suffix A (ATF TASA). One of the components (namely viscosity modifier) in producing these fluids was whale oil. By the way, some ATF still smells like fish, like Mercon. Good thing it doesn't apply to https://www.heming-engineering.co.uk/tractors-and-machinery/siromer-small-tractors.

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