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#1 Posted : Friday, 19 June 2009 12:41:24 AM(UTC)
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Can someone pleas egive me the model number for a HT Premier V8 Sedan

and approz when did they stop putting the 307 in and start the 308 cheers
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#2 Posted : Friday, 19 June 2009 1:11:57 AM(UTC)
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1135 6cyl wagon
1235 V8 wagon
1169 6cyl sedan
1269 V8 sedan

253/308 engines started at 308H1001 at the start of HT for all plants but 308 was only in Brougham until 9/69 when it replaced the 307 in the rest of the HT range.

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#3 Posted : Friday, 19 June 2009 4:34:24 AM(UTC)
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cheers.... the car is a 81269 sydney car... body no. 107 with a 307 powerglide... its a 1969 car...

do you think the car could have been an original 307 car?

chers al
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#4 Posted : Friday, 19 June 2009 5:07:14 AM(UTC)
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Being number 107 from Sydney it will be one of the following:

307 auto.
253 3 speed.
253 4 speed saginaw.

1 and 3 will have speedo cable through centre of firewall.
3 will have special hump on left side of trans tunnel.

So for 307 auto you will have speedo cable in centre with standard floor.

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#5 Posted : Friday, 19 June 2009 5:35:29 AM(UTC)
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What is the engine number? Should be around 30718xxx to 30719xxx.


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#6 Posted : Friday, 19 June 2009 9:24:23 PM(UTC)
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Al

What is the engine number? Should be around 30718xxx to 30719xxx.

Byron I will email you it later...

and cheers for the info warren

Al


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#7 Posted : Saturday, 20 June 2009 7:08:34 AM(UTC)
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Hi Guys,
I have an original HT premier with a factory 307 chev.
Have original build sheet and sales receipt from GMH in Adelaide
ID numbers
Model - HT 81269
Body - 14A
Trim - 1191 - 14T
Paint - 567 - 10976

81269TL127941

Wonder if someone can help me. What does 14A stand for?
What do the numbers after TL stand for?

Its a beautiful car to drive, the 307 is a torquey motor.
Does anyone know how many HT premiers with 307s were built.

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#8 Posted : Saturday, 20 June 2009 7:44:23 AM(UTC)
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14A is 14th V8 HT Premier sedan (HT 1269) from Adelaide.

TL is T for HT L for Adelaide plant. TJ would be an HT from Dandenong.

Nice combo, Blue with blue trim with cloth inserts.

Would love a copy of the production broadcast sheet if possible.

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#9 Posted : Sunday, 21 June 2009 12:40:01 AM(UTC)
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Just out of curiosity, what does the extension on the engine number mean?
For example 307005## K10 17
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#10 Posted : Sunday, 21 June 2009 1:52:08 AM(UTC)
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The K1017 was put on in Nth America prior to shipping to GMH.

Engine ID Code Example: V0107CLJ - (V = Plant, 01 = January, 07 = 7th Day, CLJ = Engine Suffix Code)
Another example: T0830CTY - (T = Tonawanda, 08 = August, 30 = 30th day, CTY = 1970 396 Camaro, 375 hp, 11.0:1, TH400)



Code Engine Plant Code Engine Plant
F Flint (Motor) S Saginaw Service
H Hydramatic T Tonawanda
K St. Catherines, Ontario V Flint (Engine)
(McKinnon Industries Canada)
M GM of Mexico


So the K is St.Catherines and the rest is the date.
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#11 Posted : Sunday, 21 June 2009 2:31:36 AM(UTC)
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Hi Warren,
Thanks for the info. Yes, monza blue with twilight blue interior is a nice combo.
You dont see many HT 307 premiers around, wondering how many they built.
Mine was an ex GMH fleet car which was then purchased by an GMH employee from Holden. The car stayed in the same family until I purchased it last Dec with 55,000 miles.
Has the usual rust spots in the usual places. Car in progress to be painted. Interior in good nick for age, fabric has rips but would expect that for age.
Send me your email address and ill send you some pics and the build sheet etc.

Let me know what its worth?

Cheers

Bill
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#12 Posted : Sunday, 21 June 2009 2:44:29 AM(UTC)
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Thankyou, K plant on October 17.
Export seems to put a dampener on the info trail, probably explains the lack of extra digits on the suffix.

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#13 Posted : Sunday, 21 June 2009 3:06:10 AM(UTC)
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quote:
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Just out of curiosity, what does the extension on the engine number mean?
For example 307005## K10 17


Thats an early Acacia Ridge 307, pre Monaro. Number sequence is fine.

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#14 Posted : Sunday, 21 June 2009 3:31:11 AM(UTC)
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Spot on Byron, the car was Brissy built on 16 Mar 68 or thereabouts.
Does this mean that the suffix was stamped at the engine plant in USA/Canada and the engine number at the GMH plant here and GMH didnt bother with IDing the car the donk went into?
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#15 Posted : Sunday, 21 June 2009 5:04:58 AM(UTC)
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Yes the K1017 bit is stamped in the McKinnon plant in Canada, and the 5 x GMH assembly plants stamped their own assigned number series into the blocks. That is why there is 5 x different number sequences for GMH installed Chev engines for HK-HG. Also the same sequences were used for GMH assembled Impalas, Parisiennes etc.
Not sure what you mean about not IDing the car the engine went into?

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#16 Posted : Sunday, 21 June 2009 5:20:07 AM(UTC)
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I did some Googling on this and it appears that US engines had extra numbers stamped after the date code to indicate what type of vehicle the engine was meant for. The lack of that info on our engines is why I made that comment re the GMH IDing.

Open the page and scroll down about half way til you get to the engine number pad picture.

http://www.yearone.com/y...s/tabid/322/Default.aspx

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#17 Posted : Sunday, 21 June 2009 6:42:41 AM(UTC)
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I get you. The 307 in HK/T is the only GMH one that I know of that didnt get a code after the date stamps. All the others seem to have something, like Tonnawanda HK 327 have H5, McKinnon HK 327 have H etc. Its actually the H5 that distinguishes Tonnawanda GTS327 engines from those fitetd to 68 Impalas and Parisiennes etc assembled here as they exist in the same engine number series. From memory HQ 350 engines have H, I cant remember what HT and HG Tonnawanda and McKinnon 350 engines had.

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#18 Posted : Sunday, 21 June 2009 7:11:25 AM(UTC)
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Fair dinkum I am buying a lottery ticket after that, trust me to pick the only engine that didnt have the extras on its eng number.
Thanks for the info you are an absolute gold mine.
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#19 Posted : Sunday, 21 June 2009 7:42:47 AM(UTC)
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Not yours specifically, ALL GMH 307s dont have anything after the date stamps. Yours is dead normal.

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#20 Posted : Sunday, 21 June 2009 7:50:52 AM(UTC)
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Sorry Byron, sometimes things get read other than the way they were intended. I did mean the 307 in general, not my car specifically.
I suppose that in the GMH mindset at that time this engine was only going into HKs so they saw no need to elaborate.

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