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#1 Posted : Monday, 18 April 2011 6:56:41 AM(UTC)
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I have an EB Falcon that I left idling for about 2 hours to charge the battery when I went back to check on it it had stopped and will no longer start. It winds over but wont fire up, it has plenty of fuel. Any help is appreciated
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#2 Posted : Monday, 18 April 2011 7:15:21 AM(UTC)
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Check for spark first to eliminate the ignition system.

If there's no spark, it might have killed it's coil - I've had that happen in the driveway before.
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#3 Posted : Monday, 18 April 2011 7:45:07 AM(UTC)
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Hi Mick, will check that tomorrow arvo Thanks for your
help Cheers John
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#4 Posted : Tuesday, 19 April 2011 10:32:47 PM(UTC)
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Is it a Smartlock equipped EB (post October 1992)?

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#5 Posted : Thursday, 21 April 2011 6:03:53 AM(UTC)
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Hi Jim5.0 It has never had a smartlock since I owned it so I guess would be pre 92 (definately EB tho) Cheers
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#6 Posted : Saturday, 23 April 2011 4:06:54 AM(UTC)
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Yes Smartlock was introduced 1/2 way through the EB2 model run.

I was going to suggest that you leave the ignition on for an hour to reset the Smartlock module but if you don't havre it it's not going to help.

The ignition coils have a habit of failing when the engine is warmed up on these. Also on the top of your throttle body where the IAC bolts on there is a pinkish wire that connects to a white joiner. The wire tends to fracture over time and cause the engine to die. Give it a bit of a pull on both sides of the connector will show up if it's busted.

I merely soldered the wires together thus eliminating the connector when mine died. Trouble is it took me 3 days with the multimeter and workshop manual and several hundred dollars in parts before I found the problem. The car did run nicely though after I had completely rebuilt the distributor.

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#7 Posted : Thursday, 28 April 2011 4:54:39 AM(UTC)
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Hi Jim5.0 Thank you for you assistance if I get home in daylight hours tomorrow I will check these
out, I was a total holden man until recently I now own 2 fords if this was an old kingswood or monaro I would have had it running weeks ago
but technology is overtaking me. Thank you again for your assistance
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#8 Posted : Thursday, 28 April 2011 8:37:29 PM(UTC)
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Another thing that it could be is that your fuel pump has died which can happen to any car be it Holden or Ford they all use basically the same pump.

EFI engines still need the same things to run as a carby engine fuel, air, compression and ignition.

Easiest things to try is get a spare spark plug, sit it on the rocker cover and connect one of your leads to it. DON'T hold or even go near the spark plug as the electric shock could kill you. Crank the engine and see if you have a spark. If you do then you know that you have a fuel problem.

At the back of your fuel rail you will see a regulator, Disconnect one of the lines to it or take it off the fuel rail. Crank the engine and see if fuel goes everywhere. If it does you have fuel pumping if not you have a fuel problem.

Another thing that I have seen starting to give out on these cars now that they are 18+ years old is the fuel pump relay. It lives under the coolant tank. There are two relays there one for the fuel pump the other for the ignition system.

To check the relay/pump you could hotwire the fuel pump. its under a 6 inch round metal plate (usually black) held to your boot floor by 3 screws. If you have access to another fuel relay then even better as they are only a 5 minute job to remove.

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#9 Posted : Saturday, 30 April 2011 8:28:55 PM(UTC)
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Thank you Jim5.0 I have purchased a new fuel pump and fuel regulator so looks like this weekend will be one of
fixing the ford will keep you updated on the findings Cheers John
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#10 Posted : Wednesday, 4 May 2011 8:52:28 AM(UTC)
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Another word of advice. Apparently the plastic ring that holds the pump in the tank is way easier to undo if you loosen the tank straps as the straps distort the tank when they are tight.


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