I see the Blue HK GTS 327 sold at the Motoclassica auction.
The engine was Chevy orange - is this the wrong colour ?

X2 red I think it is called. The same red used on HD/R X2 and HR 186S. GMH must have sent that paint spec over to the US and that is what the Chev engines were painted wheras the Holden engines were changed to a different red. Or something like that.

Chris - you must be the guy that built the car ??
Sorry to tell you Chris but yours is the first GTS I have seen with an orange engine, and I have seen a few hundred HK GTS 327 in my time.
Look at all the original unmolested V8 HK Monaros and they have "red" engines. I know - I have one.
Have a look at the Nationals previous winners and they have "red" engines.
Have a look at the colour of the engine on the cover of the Holden V8 1968 workshop manual from back then - its red.

Chris the car looked nice, its a poster car for Rare Spares and you got a good quid for it. Fantastic.

But regrettably you were misinformed by your expert about the engine colour- FFS.

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Originally posted by Chris Day
As usual you blokes just have to bag. The colour of the engine is correct and was checked with experts who know. the engine and all its bolt on bits were checked by a well known Melbourne HKTG expert and given the thumbs up.
FFS enjoy the car for what it is.

Chris

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no one is baggin it chris, unfortunately its just the way it is, roger might have made a blue here I reckon, you should have built a GTHO, you would have got a lot more and sold it easier, we have to remember its only a 327 HK, really nothing to rave or write home about, and sales figures lately prove and show this, probably should have built an FC like daves!!

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Does this apply to HQ 350 as well ? my 350 sure looks Chevy orange to me ? Mark.

I'm not sure about HK, but disagree with the some of the comments/opinions regarding HT350 and HG350 engine paint colour. I know of a class winning survivor HG350, recently seen at the nationals, in which the engine is definitely Chevrolet Orange, and a HT350 which is also definitely Chevrolet Orange. Both also have unpainted raw cast iron gearboxes, by the way.

That'll be it. HK-HT GMH documentation shows the following (but for stuff painted here it may not always follow the Engineering documentation at every assembly plant for every instance):

HK 307 and 327 engines (and bellhousing on manual cars), Saginaw transmission and Opel transmission - all painted HR X2 engine red. This includes exhaust manifolds. You can see almost everything as it should be on a type 1 HK GTS327 engine on the cover of the original Scientific Publications workshop manual - http://www.ebay.com.au/i...dia&hash=item541238db1d

HT to sometime in 1973 HQ 350 engines (and bellhousings on manual cars) - all the same X2 engine red. Saginaw transmissions all painted HK rocket red (same red as HK 6cyl engines) regardless of whether fitted to a 161, 186, 253, 308 or 350ci engine.

1973-1974 HQ 350 engines - HK rocket red.

As far is known the transmissions were all painted wherever they were unpacked before sending to the assembly plants.

Looks like X2 Holden red to me. Looks the same colour as all the original 307, 327 and 350 blocks, heads, manifolds etc that I've accumulated over the years. It looks orange until you get it next to Chevy Orange in my experience.

Gerard, I can't comment about HK, but the HT, which I've owned since 1979, and the HG, which has been owned by the current owner for about the same time, both have raw gearboxes. Both are Dandenong cars, if that makes a difference, and both still have the daubed paint mark which is supposedly an assembly mark of some kind. My differential also has a similar mark. If any paint on the gearbox had been stripped the daub would not have survived.

Hi all .. regarding the lack of paint on the gearboxes...from what i read years ago, the 307 in the HK range initially came with auto only....

...could the unpainted aspect be something to do with the relaxation of that rule?...whereby the "new" gearboxes could now be fitted, with the earliest manuals being almost considered an afterfit ??