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#1 Posted : Saturday, 14 May 2005 10:36:03 PM(UTC)
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Im looking at buying a VN to take on a trip to Alice Springs and the Rock next month.

What VN specific things should I look for?

When were VNII's released? This one's a 1990 model Auto. 148,000km. Deceased Estate. No service history as all maintenance was done by deceased male owner since 1993. Factory air and power steer. Condition listed as very good. Asking $2000. What are your thoughts?
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#2 Posted : Saturday, 14 May 2005 11:22:38 PM(UTC)
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With those Ks, I would buy it in a flash. Just make sure the Air con and Power steer works properly, as they can both be an expensive rebuild. You can get away with a dodgy/leaky power steer set up, but traveling up north without air might be a bit challenging.

Also check the gear box, some need a rebuild between 120 - 200ks. But if and old fella has owned it and drove it easy you should have no problems.

those engines are good for 400,000ks plus if treated right, so this one is just run in.

I bought one for $1500 that had 200 on the clock and abused the hell out if it, no maintenance and thrashed it as a work car everyday for well over 150,000ks was still going strong as ever until some friendly native australians wanted the car more than I did, they used it in a ram raid and wrote the old girl off, insurance paid me 3k for the old girl, and she later turned up in a wrecking yard. I must admit I was a bit teary on seeing her there, she served me well and to go out like that was a real same.

Buy it, you wont regret it.. hell you will probably keep it after your trip.
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With those K's, I would buy it in a flash. Just make sure the Air con and Power steer works properly, as they can both be an expensive rebuild. You can get away with a dodgy/leaky power steer set up, but traveling up north without air might be a bit cha
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#4 Posted : Sunday, 15 May 2005 4:11:48 AM(UTC)
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I've just bought a VN11 Berlina with 112000k's. Ive done the usual checks Radiator, gear shifting OK, etc. The only thing i have done is skim front disc's and new pads, And put a injector cleaner through as being of this age it was running rough and now i
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Ive just bought a VN11 Berlina with 112000ks. Ive done the usual checks Radiator, gear shifting OK, etc. The only thing i have done is skim front discs and new pads, And put a injector cleaner through as being of this age it was running rough and now its perfect. Just remember its an old car and i know the ks are low but dont thrash it. I got mine for $4600 air/con, power steer, electric windows, mint interiour, Toe bar and oil cooler and no rust or any damage. Sounds like the owner was very particular and the condition should show that. Tell me i bought mine as were else would you pick up a car with that Ks for that price! You couldnt get a Hundai for that! And who would want one anyway. just expect to allocate a couple of hundred bucks for those odd things as any second hand car may need. lots of cheep stuff on E-Bay.
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Hi Mightyrollaman.

The series II VN was released around April/May 90.

The only easy visual checks for series IIs are, the different hubcaps, the grey faced stereo, the green light that illuminates the ignition switch & the fact that it has 2 radiator bottles (1 surge & 1 overflow). Most VN series II upgrades are under the skin

Many people confuse the release of the VP type V6 engine (Nov 90) as being series II, that is not correct, there are many series IIs (about 6 months production) without the later engine.

To answer your other question, about what to check or replace prior to a long trip. I would replace the fuel pump (in-tank) & the crank sensor (regardless of kms), these are the 2 common causes of brake downs in VNs. I would also get the cooling system fully checked & serviced, for obvious reasons & a normal service & safety check,(remember this car is 15 yeaers old, no matter what the kms). Other than that, these things will last almost forever, you cant wear them out. But they will die from lack of preventative maintenance.

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Hi Mightyrollaman.

The series II VN was released around April/May '90.

The only easy visual checks for series IIs are, the different hubcaps, the grey faced stereo, the green light that illuminates the ignition switch & the fact that it has 2 radiat
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#8 Posted : Monday, 16 May 2005 5:03:55 AM(UTC)
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I'd agree with all of the above ^^^^, especially the cooling system.
You MUST run the correct coolant in V6's as these are high pressure systems. The reservoir "bottles" are inclined to deteriorate...they seem to become brittle & crack, so check it caref

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Id agree with all of the above ^^^^, especially the cooling system.
You MUST run the correct coolant in V6s as these are high pressure systems. The reservoir "bottles" are inclined to deteriorate...they seem to become brittle & crack, so check it carefully.
Power steering hoses can be a problem...they can become weak around the connections, and Ive seen one car that caught fire from the fluid leaking on to the exhausy manifold....not nice!!!
Another problem if you have electric windows, is the switches....they really arent good quality, and we replace these constantly.
Steering racks tend to wear out relatively quickly, and wiper motors also....dont suppose youll need wipers in the Alice though :-)
Apart from that, VNs arent bad cars and the V6 is a brillant engine IMHO.

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#10 Posted : Tuesday, 17 May 2005 11:12:14 PM(UTC)
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Thanks heaps guys. Im checking it out tonight and Ill be taking your advice with me. Ill keep you posted.
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#11 Posted : Tuesday, 17 May 2005 11:12:14 PM(UTC)
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Thanks heaps guys. I'm checking it out tonight and I'll be taking your advice with me. I'll keep you posted.
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#12 Posted : Friday, 20 May 2005 12:29:30 AM(UTC)
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Well things were less stellar than expected. Fortunately it started pouring with rain the moment we arrived. Joy. I took it to a servo to give her a jolly good looking over. I didn't get very far as the underside of the oil cap had a lovely coat of cream.
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Well things were less stellar than expected. Fortunately it started pouring with rain the moment we arrived. Joy. I took it to a servo to give her a jolly good looking over. I didnt get very far as the underside of the oil cap had a lovely coat of cream. No thanks!!! Just shows, you never know what theyre trying to pull. Jolly great introduction to a VN on 185s driving in the rain. What a blast!

Going to look at another one this arvo, 280,000km Series 1: $1650. This time owned by a living old bloke. One good thing so far is that the CAS was replaced a couple of weeks ago.
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Ok, checked out the Series 1. Good honest bloke. Car drives well and everything works bar the radio. Only things wrong with it were a bit of steering play and apparently the shocks are the originals, though they didnt seem too bad. Not perfect, but not dead either. Is it difficult to tighten the rack?

Radiator is apparently original. Temp gauge seemed to be slow to move when warming up and after a couple of taps seemed to give an accurate reading. Is this common? Easily fixed?
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Ok, checked out the Series 1. Good honest bloke. Car drives well and everything works bar the radio. Only things wrong with it were a bit of steering play and apparently the shocks are the originals, though they didn't seem too bad. Not perfect, but not d
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The gauges in VN's are renouned for sticking...Sometimes you can get to 80 k's (using only normal acceleration) before the speedo will move from 0...and the fuel gauges stick. Never had a problem with the temp gauge though in my VN. Sometimes the speedo w
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The gauges in VNs are renouned for sticking...Sometimes you can get to 80 ks (using only normal acceleration) before the speedo will move from 0...and the fuel gauges stick. Never had a problem with the temp gauge though in my VN. Sometimes the speedo will bounce up and down and only record about a third of the Ks driven. On mine it was the dash loom connector on the back of the cluster was covered in green, grungy electrical growth stuff (there must be a better name for that stuff). Once I cleaned the connector, she was right as rain again.

A mate of mine with a VT2 5.7 (same drivetrain as my VY SS) was complaining to me a couple of weeks ago that his car takes a lot longer to warm up now than it used to and than my VY does. Maybe the VN youre looking at has a thermostat that doesnt quite close anymore (just a guess...).

The radio in my VN was woeful too but I never got around to fixing it before the ex took the car when we busted up...didnt care after that. I THINK it may have been an earthing problem but not sure.

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Yep my first thought was thermostat also. I think Ill change it just for the hell of it whilst Im changing the fluid. I might pul the cluster out and give it a hit of silicon spray..... if I buy it. Thanks for the info.
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Yep my first thought was thermostat also. I think I'll change it just for the hell of it whilst I'm changing the fluid. I might pul the cluster out and give it a hit of silicon spray..... if I buy it. Thanks for the info.
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Is the steering rack adjustable? Or does it require replacement?
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