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cheers for the info byron,
seating cap. is 2
what other info is needed? im not sure what you mean by GVW?
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GVW is on the ADR plate. 1860kg, 1900kg, 1950kg?
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dunno if it interests anyone but i have some new
hz v8 sand xx7 ute/pano GVW 1950kg tyre placards gm part no is 9946866
if interested drop me a line to j_ackland at aapt.net.au also include a pic of you sandy plates all 3 plz. as i will not let em go to anyone without a gen sandman for obvious reasons =)
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Can you send me a photo of one good enough for my website?
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Gday byron do you know if holden ever made the sandman panelvan in the wb as i have a friend who tells me that he has one and apparently there was only four made ....
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Anything is possible but as far as I know a WB Sandman never left Elizabeth. If you can get the ID and ill see what it says.
Holden dropped the Sandmans before the end of HZ so I very much doubt that any WB example was built after the decision to stop building HZ Sandmans was made, so any surviving WB example would be only a prototype.
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what is the diff? GU1 GV1 GV7 ect. LSD.10 bolt. banjo?
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Hi Byron Was just wondering if you could help me out with information on my panel van. I brought it as a rolling shell 16 years ago from a guy that assured me it was a Sandman.. All the numbers seem to say it could be from data sourced from your web site, but my vin number says it was built at Dandenong, and have been told by others that all Sandmans came from only 2 sites, Adelaide and Brisbane. So this led me to believe I had been duped, but hopefully you could clear things up, as I have been reading all the messages and came across the guys Sandman ute that came out of Dandy. Numbers are as follows
Model HZ8W M70
Body no 398457-A
Trim 1930-67V
Paint 568-30521
Eng L31
Trans M21
Rraxle GV4
GVW 1950kg
Seating Cap 2
VIN 8M70TH J5983312
Built 11-77
As it was only a rolling shell, have no tyre placard to go by. Any information would be greatly appreciated and it awesome the amount of work you guys have put in to research all these facts
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Hi farrblake.
The A in "Body no 398457-A", means that the body was built in Adelaide, but the J5 means final assembly took place in Dandenong.
The numbers look OK for a genuine Sandman.
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Whomever told you that Sandmans only came from Acacia and Elizabeth are full of it. Theyve probably misconstrued the fact that HJ-HZ van body shells were only constructed at Acacia and Elizabeth. When that happened they were given Acacia and Elizabeth BODY plates. Dandenong and Pagewood assembled the panel vans once the bodies were shipped and were thus given Dandenong or Pagewood VIN and ADR plates and chassis numbers. This means that HJ-HZ Panel vans (including Sandmans) were assembled in ALL 4 plants, but only Elizabeth and Acacia have matching tags. From my research ALL HJ-HZ vans had Elizabeth constructed bodies - never seen an Acacia one on any van other than an Acacia assembled van.
Interestingly Pagewood constructed their own ute and HQ van bodies, and Dandenong constructed at least their own HJ ute bodies.
I cant tell you for sure if its a Sandman but id be about 90% confident.
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Thanks guys Help was much appreciated. I was also hoping you could tell me the original paint and trim colors
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1930 is Palais White.
67V is tan vinyl, and unfortunately a trim colour common to Sandman and non-Sandman.
Check for the full headlining rear attachment bracket and door courtesy light switches.
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Headlining was done years ago but am 99% sure it had one and not sure what door courtesy light switches are, but if your referring to the the black switches that turn interior light on when you open doors, it has them. Also if paint color is 1930 then what do the numbers 568-30521 mean next to paint on id tags.
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30521 is the Dulon paint formula for Palais white. 568 is solid colour. 1930 is the Holden paint code for Palais White.
You have assumed correctly what I meant by courtesy light switches.
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hey byron just wanna know if you have thiS PALAIS WHITE ute
mod-HZ8W-M-80
BODY-406618-A
TRIM1930-18V
PAINT-568-30521
ENG-L31
TRANS-M21
GV4
TYRE PLAC-9946866
SEATING CAP-2
GVW-1950KG
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Yes I did, but I didnt have the 18V trim code.
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I have a question for Byron Rich.
I have recently purchased a HX that has seen a rough life, has been stripped to a bare shell and rebuilt using components clearly from other cars at one point in its life. Unforntunately none of the factory fitted accessories remain. previous owner says he is about 85% sure it is a Sandman. i would very much appreaciate your input on this subject.
Built 2/77. body 226893-A. trim 1888-67V. paint 568-15951. eng L32. trans M40. axel GU4. GVW 1860. seat 2. AHX25643A.
You have my thanks.
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Hi Andrew.
Do you have the model number, its the one on the top line on the body ID plate.
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Andrew Assuming the plates match (they look to) and there is no mistakes on the plates it can only be one of two things: HX XX7 Sandman ute - model code will be HX8WM80, VIN will be 8M80TGL37xxxxX; OR HX XU4 HOLDEN or KINGSWOOD ute - model codes HX8WM80 or HX8WN80, VIN as above except Kingswood will begin with 8N80. It is more likely to be a Sandman than not, but unfortunately with a 67V trim code I cannot tell whether it is or if its an XU4. If it is a Kingswood then its not a Sandman. To be a Sandman is has to have a seating capacity of 2 on the ADR plate and have a T-bar (not column shift). _______________________________________________________ If we all had the same (good) taste, who would buy all the Fords? Edited by user Tuesday, 29 May 2007 10:21:15 PM(UTC)
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