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#241 Posted : Monday, 24 September 2007 12:45:37 AM(UTC)
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Yes I did. I have only had a quick look at them so far, but there is probably no point posting them up here, apart from maybe interest in the photos of the ute. Will try to do this for you soon.
The original N66 wheels on a late 1978 is very interesting though, as I thought this happened in February 1979.

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#242 Posted : Monday, 24 September 2007 1:36:36 AM(UTC)
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Thanks Byron.When I bought my ute there was a van next to it exactly the same as the one on the brochure posted by Absinth,colour-strpes etc.The only exception was it had the same wheels as mine, but the knob on the gear lever was a golf club style.I dont know the build date. Rob
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#243 Posted : Monday, 24 September 2007 8:40:32 AM(UTC)
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Hi, i am hoping you can help with some details on my PV - i doubt shes a Sandman but i cant find the bloody trim code anywhere.
MODEL: HZ8WM70
BODY: 445368-A
TRIM: 1930-67C
PAINT: 568-30521
TRANS: M20
R/AXLE: L32
ENGINE: L32

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#244 Posted : Monday, 24 September 2007 9:57:58 PM(UTC)
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Need more info. Whats its GVW, VIN and seating capacity? R/AXLE is wrong also.

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#245 Posted : Monday, 24 September 2007 10:26:41 PM(UTC)
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1930 is Palais white and 67C is Tan vinyl.

This one is a little more interesting as I cant find 1929 anywhere. Definately a Sandman though with Slate black trim.

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#246 Posted : Monday, 24 September 2007 11:07:35 PM(UTC)
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Absinth.
Never heard of 67C trim before. Probably just Tan in the Commodore vinyl, but never seen it before. I have a few Sandmans in Opaline Blue (1929). Do you have the VIN number for this van for my register? Is the chassis number AHZ00355M (hard to read)?

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#247 Posted : Tuesday, 25 September 2007 12:14:41 AM(UTC)
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I believe 67C is indeed Commodore Tan trim. You have the chassis No. correct. Vin number is strange, engine is correct, date is correct, doesnt match body No. and says is a HX????

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#248 Posted : Tuesday, 25 September 2007 4:00:03 AM(UTC)
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Absinth, How did you get on with your side panels for your van?
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#249 Posted : Tuesday, 25 September 2007 4:26:36 AM(UTC)
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I believe 67C is indeed Commodore Tan trim. You have the chassis No. correct. Vin number is strange, engine is correct, date is correct, doesnt match body No. and says is a HX????



Its the right PSN (or close to it) for the chassis no. and BODY plate. I also have AHZ00395M on record. Its BODY number is 396557 and its PSN is J597059.
And AHZ00195M which has BODY number 394934 and PSN J594782.

Perfect example of how BODY, chassis and PSN can vary for vehicles supposedly close together, especially in Elizabeth bodied vehicles completed in Dandenong or Pagewood. This is why this van has an Elizabeth BODY plate but Dandenong VIN and chassis. Normal for HJ-HZ vans completed in Dandenong and Pagewood.
The X is a mistake by my reckoning. Seen this before - look at the HQ ID on my web page with the J on the end of the VIN.

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#250 Posted : Tuesday, 25 September 2007 7:04:41 AM(UTC)
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Cheers for that info on the trim.
Yeah, R/AXLE is GV4
VIN: 8M70RJL445368Z
GVW: 2200
CHZ50574A

Any info you could tell me would be great.

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#251 Posted : Tuesday, 25 September 2007 8:37:23 AM(UTC)
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Byron, here is some of the Sandman details I have collected. You probably already have some of them.

VAN HX HX8WM70 BODY NO 201340-A TRIM1888-18V PAINT568-15951 ENG L31 TRANS M21 AXLE GU4 THE ID PLATE 8M70TF J533137X HOLDEN PLATE HX PANEL VAN 8-76 AHX O1180 M GVW1950 KG SEATING 2 Slate black vinyl trim

VAN HX HX8WM70 /BODY 204258-A /TRIM 2214-65A /PAINT 568-15991 /8MTORFL355319X /L32 M40 GU4 /O8/76 AHX 05913A / GVW 1950 SEATING 2 Sienna vinyl trim

VAN HX HX8WM70; 09/76 AHX10851A GVW 1950KG SEATS 2 MODEL;body 210133-A TRIM 1888-18V PAINT 568-15951 ENG L32 TRANS M20 AXLE GV7. Slate black vinyl

UTE HJ Kingswood HJ8WN80 XX7;?-75 BHJ04763B; GVW 2200kg seat cap:2; model; body: 353860B; trim: 1896-18V; paint: 567-15942; eng L31 trans M21 raxle GV4; vin 8N80TEH353860J Slate black vinyl

UTE HX HX8WM80 :4/76; Body NOs 185749-A : Trim-1890-19V:Paint- 568-15953 : Eng L20 : Trans M20 : RR Axle GV7: 1860kg GVW; 8M80LFL339461X Black vinyl

VAN HZ HZ8WM70; 6/78; chassis-BHZ 22516A; body-416692-A;trim-1930-63V; paint-368-30521; eng-L31/trans-M21/axle-GU4; GVW 2200; seating 2; VIN-8M70THL416692Z Buckskin vinyl

UTE HJ Kingswood HJ8WN80; 10-74 AHJ01190M; GVW 2200kg seat cap:2; model; body: 454217M; trim: 1890-18V; paint: 568-15953; eng L31 trans M21 raxle GV4 Slate black vinyl

UTE HX 8WM80XR; 2/77; GVW: 1860kg; Seating Capacity: 2; AHX 23563S; Body: 916343-S; Trim: 1890-18V; Paint: 568-15953; Engine: L31; Trans:; M21; RRAxle: GV4; Tyre Placard: 9942991; Description: C78514 - 558kg load Slate black vinyl

UTE HX 8WM80XR; built 9-76, AHX 11133S; GVM - 2200KG; Seating Capacity – 2; BODY - 904055 S; TRIM - 1890 - 18V; PAINT - 568 – 15953; Tyre Placard – 9942827; eng - L31; trans - M21 ; raxle - GV4 Slate black vinyl

UTE HX HX8WM80; body no.. 214971-A; trim.. 2214-18V; paint.. 568-15991; eng.. L32; trans.. M20; rr axle.. GV7; gvw.. 1860kg; seating.. 2; 8M80RGL364663X Slate black vinyl

VAN HZ HZ8WM70 XX7; body 480088B; trim 1934 63C; paint 56730525; engine L32; trans M 20; rear axle GV4; gvw 2000kg; chas CHZ21810B; seating 2; vin 8M70RJH480088Z; tyre placard 9946865 Buckskin vinyl

VAN HJ HJ8WM70 xx7; 3678128; 1896 60v; 567 15942; seats 2; engL20; trans; M20; axle GU7 Chamois/Covert vinyl

VAN HJ HJ8WM70 XX7; body 378914-B; 3/76; chassis BHJ23**7B; gvw 1950; seats 2; trim 1900 64V; paint 567 15946; eng L31; trans M21; axle GV4; vin 8M70TFH378914J; Gazelle vinyl

VAN HZ HZ8WM70; Body no 398457-A; Trim 1930-67V; Paint 568-30521; Eng L31; Trans M21; Rraxle GV4; GVW 1950kg; Seating Cap 2; VIN 8M70THJ5983312; Built 11-77 TAN vinyl

UTE HZ HZ8WM80; BODY-406618-A; TRIM1930-18V; PAINT-568-30521; ENG-L31; TRANS; M21; GV4; TYRE PLAC-9946866; SEATING CAP-2; GVW-1950KG ; 8M80THL406618Z Slate black vinyl

UTE HZ HZ8WM80; 8M80RHL401387Z, HZ8WM80 BODY 401387A, TRIM 1935-18V, PAINT 567-30526, L32, M20, GV7, HOLDEN HZ UTE 12/77, AHZ07590A 1860KG, 2 SEATER Slate black vinyl

UTE HJ HJ8WM80 XX7; 5/75; ch BHJ13556B; GVW 2200; 2 seat; Vin ; body 351623B; trim 1890-60V; paint 568 15953; eng L32; trans M20; axle GU4 Chamois/Covert vinyl

VAN HZ HZ8WM70; body 417594A; trim 1934 63V; paint 567 30525; eng L31; trans M21; axle GV4; gvw 2000; seats 2; Buckskin vinyl

UTE HX HX8WM80; body 237211A; 6/77; chassis AHX34526A; trim 1886 18V; paint 568 15949; eng L31; trans M41; axle GU4; vin 8M80TGL384074X; GVW 1860; seats 2; Slate black vinyl ..confirmed Sandman Overlander

VAN HZ HZ8WM70; body 397025-A; 11/77; chassis AHZ00355M; gvw 1950; seats 2; trim 1929 18V; paint 568 30520; eng L31; trans M21; axle GV4; vin 8M70THJ596071X; Slate black vinyl misprint vin

VAN HX HX8WM70; body 232976-A; 4/77; chassis AHX29578S; gvw 1950; seats 2; vin 8M70TGH922351X; trim 1888 18V; paint 568-15951; eng L31; M41; GU4; Slate black vinyl confirmed Sandman in original cond.

VAN HZ HZ8WM70 XX7; Body - 438158B; Trim - 1934 63V; Paint - 567 30525; Eng - L32; Trans - M20; axle GV7; vin 8M70RHH438158Z; 12/77; gvm 1950; Buckskin vinyl

VAN HJ HJ8WM70; body no-167823-A; trim-1886-19v; paint-5678-15949; eng-L32; trans-m20; axle-gu4; vin 8M70RFJ499933 seating cap -2; gvm 1950 kg; Black vinyl
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#252 Posted : Tuesday, 25 September 2007 4:15:58 PM(UTC)
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Cheers for that info on the trim.
Yeah, R/AXLE is GV4
VIN: 8M70RJL445368Z
GVW: 2200
CHZ50574A

Any info you could tell me would be great.

Cheers



Its a hard one to pick. There is a good chance its an XU3 Sandman. How original is it? Does it still have its tyre placard (in HZ Sandmans had a unique placard)? Does it have attachment points at the rear for the full length headlining? Have a look on my website for a photo of the headlining attachment points and placard numbers.

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#253 Posted : Tuesday, 25 September 2007 5:54:30 PM(UTC)
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interesting to see the HZs

seems that some of the early ones did have the 1860KG gvw? then went to 1950. then later 2000?
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#254 Posted : Tuesday, 25 September 2007 9:27:27 PM(UTC)
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Originally posted by Kels
Cheers for that info on the trim.
Yeah, R/AXLE is GV4
VIN: 8M70RJL445368Z
GVW: 2200
CHZ50574A

Any info you could tell me would be great.

Cheers





Its a hard one to pick. There is a good chance its an XU3 Sandman. How original is it? Does it still have its tyre placard (in HZ Sandmans had a unique placard)? Does it have attachment points at the rear for the full length headlining? Have a look on my website for a photo of the headlining attachment points and placard numbers.

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Yes, it has the tyre placard in the glove box but i havent a hope of reading it. Im unsure about the attacment points for the full length headlining - A mate seems to think it may but ill have to check on that!! The year on the comp plates is 04/79.
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Yes, it does have the attachment points at the rear.
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#256 Posted : Tuesday, 25 September 2007 10:02:28 PM(UTC)
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Id say its a very good chance it is a Sandman. It could be a normal van with an optional full length headlining, but Id say its a better chance of being a Sandman than not. Does it have a GTS dash and courtesy switches for the interior light? Twin headlight front?

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#257 Posted : Tuesday, 25 September 2007 10:17:26 PM(UTC)
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interesting to see the HZs

seems that some of the early ones did have the 1860KG gvw? then went to 1950. then later 2000?


Early HZ XX7 utes are 1860kg (as are HJ/HX utes and HJ/HX 6cyl vans) and changed to 1950kg later.
Early HZ XX7 vans are 1950kg, then changed to 2000kg later, but the changeover point is a bit blurry (early 1978).

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#258 Posted : Tuesday, 25 September 2007 11:38:06 PM(UTC)
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Id say its a very good chance it is a Sandman. It could be a normal van with an optional full length headlining, but Id say its a better chance of being a Sandman than not. Does it have a GTS dash and courtesy switches for the interior light? Twin headlight front?

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It doesnt have the HZ front end with the twin headlights anymore - I think its a HQ front?? (It had a hard life before i took it of a mates hands) Yeah, it has the GTS dash and are you talking the courtesy switches above the doors or interior light inside? i cant say i recall switches on the interior light inside but again, ill have to check on that.

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#259 Posted : Wednesday, 26 September 2007 3:52:58 AM(UTC)
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I mean the switches in the front of the door openings that turn on the interior light when you open the doors. These were standard on Sandman but not on non-Sandman HZ base model.

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#260 Posted : Wednesday, 26 September 2007 4:20:37 AM(UTC)
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Thanks, yes i have the switches in the front of the door openings. Does this mean its a Sandman because im still baffled by the trim code? i know you guys said Tan, thank u, but i just cant find anything on it.

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