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Id put about a 90% probability on it being a Sandman. 67C is indeed an odd trim code, but it may simply be a mistake. Is the trim brown or bone (off-white)? It may be meant to be 67V or 63C. Such mistakes do happen.
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The trim was a chocolate brown vinyl. I doubt it to be a Sandman now - wishful thinking i guess!! Cheers for all your help.
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i dont think it would apply to yours because its a november 78 right? I would strictly only apply this data to post 79 hzs.
i have a hz sandman, im pretty sure its a 78, i dont have photo of the adr plate, but ill check it out this week. ... here is the body id plate its a 63v also.
but there is no difference between 63c & 63v as they are both bucksin vinyl trim, the later of the 2 "v" was used on the new commodore & the "c" was on the vans & utes etc... id say this was the change. & if it had cloth it either had the usual "x" & if it was cord it was usally "t".
all HZs came with the smaller sheet metal style rivets (like in the pic) yeah? if so, does anyone know the change-over date? (from the ones that were bigger open ring style) Edited by user Friday, 5 October 2007 4:20:15 AM(UTC)
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hi rds... please note those rivets of my hz are not original rivets, they have been off that van.... here are some original rivets....  & a bigger one for the discerning eye.... 
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Hey SandmanXX7,
have you got any sales brochures with HZ in GTS guards?
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What is the going price of an ex ambulance? Are they becoming collectable?
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hey adam, do you mean for sandmans? not for sandmans anyway... that is for all the old guys to talk about (no offence...) but yeah apparently holden were doin all sorts of **** at the end of the run... i had heard of a caprice with gts guards from factory & a hz "gts" panelvan with tartan trim in the seats, gts gaurds & gts pinstripes but hey waaht do you know no photos & no proof..... what next a factory ordered hz sandman panelvan in two tone paint.
oh yeah im a signwriter & this one time about 8 years ago i was painting down at a shopping centre whenn some old retired looking bloke said to me i used to be a signwriter i used to work for holden painting sandman on the tailgates....jesus just when i thought id heard it all, go figure!
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Yeah, for sandman.
Its just that my 3/79 has a genuine set.
the car has been modified.
i am just trying to establish whether any late ones like mine had them, any at all?.
so far, doesnt look like it.
Believe me, i would love to have another spare set of Genuine guards to hang in the shed where STD guards once were,
i just want it 100% correct when it its birthday comes around.
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hi adam, well i have heard it being discussed that you could get holden to do what you wanted &at the end of the runs, if you had the patience also.because most people wanted them to have gts guards & were fitting them to the sandmans afterward the dealers would have been keen to sell it how you wanted it anyway o get the sale.... if you think about it this is what started the sandman in the first place.
If i were you when that birthday comes around dont put gts gaurds on it (pet hate of mine for hx,hz) even if it did come with them.... if you get the chance to check ( involves the gaurd being of the car & the mud gaurd off aswell), most orignal gts guards have the "original factory" paint on the inside deep behind the inner guard/mud gaurd atleast with overspray. i have 4-5 original such guards one being a genuine malachite hz gts, you can prove it by scratching it to the metal if it goes something along the lines of the colour you see, then usally black (primer holden etch) then metal (remember inner of the guard only here) then there is a good chance of it being the original, the only way of faking this is to sand/bead blast this part of the guard which is rarely done as you dont see it although it may get painted over on a rebuild so scratch it back!
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i have done this already, there is evidence of sticker residue over Malachite paint (mine is incidently originally malachite, now Barbados green...)
But it doesnt really solve anything, its had 25 years of repairs over repairs over repair, more than likely.
Then what do i say, "i scratched it, so it must of had GTS.....blah blah"
Unless Malachite was a HZ sandman only colour??
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man i better check that guard of mine (im going off memory here)..... just checked out my 79 trim colour selector there was no malachite for a gts anyway! only flamenco red, palias white, atlantis blue, aztec silver, nocturn blue, sandlewod... so i would imagine 77-78s gtss would have "supermint" as malachite this seemed to have replaced supermint.
i will also check warren & bens book the monaro story just to prvoe the malachite gts thing...
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Hey guys anyone interested in a xx7 Hq sandman accacia ridge built vehical in yellow chrome 30b interior and confirmed by holdens to be a genuine one ,, Unfortunately i need too sell and would like too see it go too an enthusiast rather than some one thats going to butcher it .. It was factory 308 M21 3.36 ratio in the back end how ever drive line is now gone , has a 327 saginaw in it which i want too keep , needs resto , but too my understanding there was less than 100 of theese vehicals built and i know they are the most valuble off all sandmans .. I wiil not sell this vehical to anyone only the person that will bring it back too its former glory its rusted in the usual places but is definatly very restorable get back too me either through the web here or via mobile im in adelaide and have been offered 20k but i recon is better than that plus they wanted too turn into a drag car and im not keen on that .. mobile no is 0416354404 ,, .. great site by the way!!!!!!!!!!
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Rusted and missing the drive train - mate, Id take the 20k and run!
I reckon something with original chicken or bull stripes would be the most valuable.
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if youre not bull****ting about that offer; take it.
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My XX7 built 75 HJ Sandman appears to have only been resprayed once, after that respray the decals were not re-fitted. When removing the guards, there was traces of the decals on both guards on the backside of the guards, the side no exposed. I have photos as well if this helps at all?
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guess ill take that offer !!!! cheers guys
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Are you going to sell the 327 and Saginaw?
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hey byron i could be talked into it , or i was going too put it into my VK calais , but if your interested let me know
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hi Byron i am having difficulties getting an email through to you is there an alternative contact ?? if not you can ring me on my mobile number listed on this page in relation to the 327 saginaw for sale ,,, cheers
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