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Not sure about dash nothing there is there a code on the plate too say about GTS dash if so what is the number if anyone knows ,, Guards are just a standard HQ guard , but i dont recon that really means a whole heap its probably had a front end hit in its life ,, I have a Q sandman and its got a J front on it ,, is there any other give aways ,, I do understand about the build date it needs too be a 74 ,, just the plates have a lot of similarities too a sandman ,, as far as i can work out the only thing its missing is the XX7 on the plate
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"just the plates have a lot of similarities too a sandman"
what the plates are saying is its a belmont hq panelvan with a 308 & aussie fourspeed on the floor which results in bucket seats eg 2 seater, so the simialrity is that "m" is for belmont & is also the base model for sandmans to be made from. these were quite common in the day....
unless it is a post january 74 its not a sandman.
heres the hq sandman standards..
4-speed manual gear box
Wide hip hugging buckets
Full GTS sports instrumentation
GTS sports wheels
GTS headlamp bezels
GTS sports steering wheel with Sandman emblem
GTS vented front fenders
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cheers for that ,, i thought it was an interesting car and worth asking the question .... Thanks guys
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Hey can anyone help me ?? I have just found a HQ windowless van and i am a little confused as too what it is i will give you all some numbers and if any one can decifer would be great..... Model ( HQ80270 ) Body (31193 b ) INT { 183921a ) GVW ( 4850 lbs )Seating cap( 2 ) THQ32573B , 8M70T?, Paint 56813890 ,, Here is the strange bit 1/73 build it seems to have all the trade marks of a sand man but build date may suggest otherwise ,, it is in average cond but could be a interesting vehical ,, cheers guys
Acacia BODY 31193B is a 3/74 - 4/74 body, but that build date and chassis number (AHQ or BHQ not THQ as typed) are wrong for the body. 31193B would have a chassis number like DHQ58000B. The VIN is for a 308 Belmont van, so the VIN plate probably belongs to the BODY plate, (VIN will be 8M70TDH31193Q) but the ADR plate is off a different van. Possibly a stolen and rebirthed van? As for the BODY/VIN combo these may be off a Sandman without the XX7 being stamped (ie a mistake). In fact Id be surprised if they werent, BUT its an Acacia HQ van/ute without XX7 so even if it was a 1-owner totally original matching numbered example, without the XX7 it does leave it vulnerable especially without metallic paint. _______________________________________________________ If we all had the same (good) taste, who would buy all the Fords? |
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Hey byron just too let you know its apparent original colour was purple metalic and i probably made a typo with the THQ ,, so it could be a possibility would holdens be able too tell me any more ??
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Holden wont be able to tell you anything more. Its not metallic either as 568 is solid colour. There is more wrong with the chassis than the T. Read my reply for the approx chassis number it should be.
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Thanks for that cheers for your help
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Tell us what this one is , My brother in law owns it & A friend might be buying it for 20 k. Just
want to see if it is what it is .
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HZ Panelvan 03/ 79 2000kg seating cap 2 L 32 M 20 Gv4
HZ8WM70 1926 - 65C
It has A Yellow needle GTS dash & tan colour interier full hoodlining to rear . Van is red in colour with Orange Sandman stripes
twin headlight front no spoiler but it does have the holes & they look original .
It has NORTH CITY P T Y. L T D
HOLDEN stamped under bonnet on R HS underneath
No XX7 on the tags & it has 2 windows cut out of each side 4 total .
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I took pictures with my camera phone at his house they are a bit blurry could be 63C
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yeah 63c buckskin would add it all up to the typical 79 sandman....so if its 63c going by the tag info, id say guarenteed "sandman" by me.
65 is sienna , its like a terracotta pot colour it wouldnt be this.
if its 67c this is the trim "tan" for the belmont base model which is available in flamenco red. not available on sandmans.
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Also the tag says 568- 30517
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The trim code isnt the best marker here. The 2000kg GVW is. V8 XU4 HZ vans were all 1950kg. 2000kg is unique to most HZ XX7 vans (except for very early examples).
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Seeing as this particular thread seems to turned into sandman forum, can anyone tell me the paint code for the off white inside the back of the panno? Cheers.
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Hi Byron i have just picked up an Hx sandman panelvan. Have checked everything out as far as codes/options go just not sure if all three id tags are from the one car. these are the numbers from the passenger side. MODEL: HX 8WM70, BODY:203875-A TRIM: 1915-18V PAINT:568-17779 ENG:L32 TRANS:M20 AXLE:GU4 Middle id tag:8M70RFL355000X Drivers side: AHX 05334A, 1950kg, build 08/76, passengers:2 Who would be able to help me find out for sure that the vehicle is genuine? regards, Chris.
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All plates match. Guaranteed HX Sandman by the slate black trim code (18V). Chassis number is a 100 or so lower than id have expected but its not unusual for them to vary a bit. Build month, GVW and seating capacity are OK though.
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Thanks for that Byron. Just signed up to this great site. Good to know that it is likely to be a genuine car. The car has had a respray in the Mint julip colour that the id tags identify it to be, pretty dodgy though. Think it is in enamel. It also has GTS guards. Did any of the HX Sandmans come out with these if the stripe kit was not optioned? How would i know if my vehicle came out with the stripes or not? The interior has been retrimmed i think but has a full headlining and the back of the seats have wood on them. Not sure about the console as it has a square ashtray hole in the back of it. The engine is a 253 with a four blade fixed fan (photos yet to be put on profile), is there any way of telling what the original engine numbers are from the information I have given you? I payed $5000. Do you think that is a reasonable price as it drives but is not registered? Cheers Chris.
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Tell me what the engine number is and ill tell you if its not right.
No HX Sandman had GTS guards. Only HQ-HJ.
I dont think youd be able to tell if it was a DL7 or not, unless you have the build sheet.
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Hi Byron, engine number is ZR103172R. hope this helps you!
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Wrong engine. Thats a late HZ 253. You need about QR80xxxx.
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