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#341 Posted : Thursday, 17 April 2008 6:48:18 PM(UTC)
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G Day byron , did the hz sandman panel van or standard panel van come out with dual exhaust systems . im trying to get the exhaust system / extractors in position before i put the shell back on the chassis.also byron is there any diagrams available anywhere that you know of, cheers jam
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#342 Posted : Thursday, 17 April 2008 10:06:40 PM(UTC)
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Good question. Ill check out the HZ parts catalogue tonight.

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#343 Posted : Thursday, 17 April 2008 10:09:32 PM(UTC)
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ZR 10XXX is approximately for a FEB 79 HZ

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#344 Posted : Saturday, 19 April 2008 5:03:43 AM(UTC)
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Where all HQ Sandmans built at Acacia ridge & adelaide, or where some built in melbourne?

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#345 Posted : Saturday, 19 April 2008 5:16:55 AM(UTC)
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Dandenong, Elizabeth, Acacia and Pagewood. Although I think HQ Sandman vans from Dandenong had Elizabeth constructed bodies. This is also true for Pagewood vans from HJ onwards, although Pagewood made their own HQ van bodies.

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#346 Posted : Saturday, 19 April 2008 9:36:23 PM(UTC)
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t.y. byron

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#347 Posted : Sunday, 20 April 2008 2:04:16 AM(UTC)
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hey byron, did you get a chance to have alook at the parts catalogue , re exhaust
cheers jam
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#348 Posted : Sunday, 20 April 2008 6:47:10 PM(UTC)
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It only appears to reference dual exhaust on sedan and statesman. I cant see any reference to dual exhaust on a commercial.

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#349 Posted : Sunday, 20 April 2008 7:02:33 PM(UTC)
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thanks for your help anyways, oh well just another small matter . the cogs are turning faster , cheers jam
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#350 Posted : Friday, 2 May 2008 1:02:05 AM(UTC)
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MORE ID for Bryon:
ADR TAG
12/77
AHZ08933A (has matching chassis rail)
Seat cap 2
GVM 2000 Kg

VIN: 8M70RHL402936Z

Body Tag
HZ8WM70
Body: 402936-A
Trim : 1933-63V
Paint 568-30524 (Valencia Orange)
L32 M20 GV4



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#351 Posted : Friday, 2 May 2008 2:55:29 AM(UTC)
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Nice find. That is the 2nd 12/77 XX7 van I have recorded. All 11/77 XX7s so far have 1950kg GVW, and all 1/78 are 2000kg. The other 12/77 XX7 van recorded is a Brisbane build and it has 1950kg GVW. So somewhere between it and yours they changed to 2000kg. Hopefully they are close on the fiche in date so that will give me a date estimate of the change.
Also XX7 HZ utes changed from 1860kg to 1950kg somewmere between AHZ07590A and AHZ9020A, and your van is in this range so Id say it happened at the same time. Incidently the ute with the chassis number AHZ9020A is a near identical build configuration to your van.

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#352 Posted : Friday, 2 May 2008 3:02:11 AM(UTC)
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its a WA van.
i may buy it if the price is right..

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#353 Posted : Friday, 2 May 2008 3:23:01 AM(UTC)
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Its much rarer than a 308 HZ Sandman but wont ever be as valuable. Good van to restore to original but stick an EFI 5litre in it.
I was looking further into the records after I wrote the last post, and I also realised that I have heaps of Elizabeth HZ vans from 9/77 right through to 5/79 or thereabouts. BUT, I only have 10/77 and 11/77 Pagewood and Dandenong examples, and Acacia examples (of which I also have heaps) dont start until 12/77.
12/77 is also where chassis numbers change from AHZ to BHZ. So Im starting to wonder if the 4 x following phenomena all line up for a reason at the same time in 12/77?

ADR change (ie AHZ to BHZ);
GVW change;
Pagewood and Dandenong stop Sandman production;
Acacia starts Sandman production.

Anyone shed any more light on this?



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#354 Posted : Friday, 2 May 2008 4:55:26 AM(UTC)
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Byron and Adam ..check emails for photos..via yahoo sent to Byron thru .......holden @......any thoughts?..jim
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#355 Posted : Friday, 2 May 2008 6:25:10 AM(UTC)
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yeah i think the valencia orange is the "pinnacle" sandman when it comes to resale & value. this is the colour most people resemble & relate as the "sandman". if the body is good get it, you wont have nay probs moving it in the future.

byron what do you mean by 4x phenomenon?
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#356 Posted : Friday, 2 May 2008 6:30:52 AM(UTC)
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I cant believe people are paying so much for a plumbers van with some stickers on it.
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#357 Posted : Friday, 2 May 2008 6:37:43 AM(UTC)
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quote:
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yeah i think the valencia orange is the "pinnacle" sandman when it comes to resale & value. this is the colour most people resemble & relate as the "sandman". if the body is good get it, you wont have nay probs moving it in the future.

byron what do you mean by 4x phenomenon?


The 4 x things I listed.

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#358 Posted : Friday, 2 May 2008 7:00:06 AM(UTC)
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another dickhead anonymous poster, go back into the ford forums loser!
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#359 Posted : Friday, 2 May 2008 7:05:41 AM(UTC)
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byron, i wrecked a hz van about 2 years which i still have the chassis plate somewhere. funny thing was it was a 2000gvw 8wm70 commercial with a 202 on the compliance, it was a standard commercial but the tags looked like sandman except the engine & trans?. ill check what date it is.
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#360 Posted : Friday, 2 May 2008 8:40:07 AM(UTC)
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Hmmm. All HZ XX7 were V8s and 2000kg is unique to HZ XX7. Must be a mistake.

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