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#381 Posted : Sunday, 18 May 2008 9:25:28 PM(UTC)
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The XX7 on the id plates makes it a defernent sandman Unless it was a error. but sounds like there is nothing to proove it not being a sandman. yes the hq sandman utes are rare. You want to sell it? lol

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#382 Posted : Sunday, 18 May 2008 9:37:47 PM(UTC)
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heres a kingswood in 39E has bench instead of buckets but the colours right
http://gallery.oldholden...ed/HQ+Kinga+39E.JPG.html
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#383 Posted : Sunday, 18 May 2008 9:48:53 PM(UTC)
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Got your email, but just as easy to reply here. From my records so far all Sandman utes pre 1976 model are Kingswoods, and yours definitely is a Sandman. What month/year is yours? It would be good to get the BODY and chassis numbers for my Sandman register.

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#384 Posted : Sunday, 18 May 2008 10:17:22 PM(UTC)
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Not for sale, Ive got no doubt it is a Sandman.Its also coded to have Metallic Paint. However it dosnt have a derated GVW, its still 4850 (2200kg). Its still got all its original looking decals also, including the smaller Series 1 "Sandman" decals.
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Hi Byron, (sorry for the double post guys)

Its a 7/74. I can email the Body number if you like?

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#386 Posted : Monday, 19 May 2008 12:17:39 AM(UTC)
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more id info for byron
5/74 ehq62374b
GVW-4850 SEATING 2
8M70TDH316836Q XX7
MODEL-HQ80270
BODY-316836B
TRIM-188239B
PAINT-56715824
ENG-L31
TRANS-M21
AXL-GV2
COULD ANYONE TELL ME IF THIS IS AN ORIGINAL HQ SANDMAN THANKS

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#387 Posted : Monday, 19 May 2008 12:34:06 AM(UTC)
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Yes definitely is.

Brad, yes please email. Pre 1976 model XX7s had no derating.

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#388 Posted : Monday, 19 May 2008 2:26:57 AM(UTC)
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g,day Byron and dr,Terry just wondering if you could check the details of my hq van on page 37/38 and see what you think, as i dont want to spend money on it if i c,ant say its a geniune sandman. apparently some brisbane hq,s didnt get xx7 stampings. i hope so. also on the id tag it says 5/74 but gmh records say prod date 9.10.74 whats the story here. thanks fellas look forward to your replys. gary
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#389 Posted : Monday, 19 May 2008 3:39:13 AM(UTC)
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By all accounts it should be a Sandman, but the GMH records must be wrong as yours fits in amongst others fine as a 5/74. Interestingly it fits right in with 3 x others that are all ostensibly Brisbane Sandmans that dont have XX7 on the BODY plate? Go figure. Regardless, being an Acacia Ridge build without XX7 will always make it hard to sell as a Sandman so it will never command top dollar.

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#390 Posted : Monday, 19 May 2008 9:27:50 AM(UTC)
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quote:
Originally posted by Byron Rich
Brad

From my records so far all Sandman utes pre 1976 model are Kingswoods

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Hi Byron, this HQ Sandman ute recently on Ebay is a Belmont ute. You may want the details for your records.

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/w...Name=STRK:MEWA:IT&ih=009
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It certainly looks like an original Sandman, and its very original looking. But if it is a Sandman its the first Belmont based Sandman ute ive recorded or seen that is pre 1976 model. Ill record it as a possible as it does bother me a bit that its not a Kingswood.
It is also the first Dandenong HQ Sandman ute I have recorded, and interestingly enough the next 4 Sandmans I have recorded (in sequence) from Dandenong are HJ Kingswood Sandman utes, the first being only 3321 away in PSN which is pretty close (it is very early HJ, that HQ is very late HQ - both are 9/74). Of 16 Dandenong HJ Sandmans recorded, 7 are Kingswood utes.

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#392 Posted : Tuesday, 20 May 2008 11:29:59 AM(UTC)
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I have this HJ Sandman ute recorded as a 5-75 build date.
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#393 Posted : Tuesday, 20 May 2008 5:31:10 PM(UTC)
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Excellent. Another one. Do you have more data on it?

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#394 Posted : Friday, 23 May 2008 9:55:41 PM(UTC)
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Bryon, i emailed you the pics of the tags of this one.

2/77 HX van
1950 GVM
2 seater
AHX 92813S ? (matching rail)

HX8WM70 XX7
Body :411782B
Trim : 1886-18V
Paint: 568 15949 Absinth - how nice is absinth!

L31, M21, GV4

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#395 Posted : Friday, 23 May 2008 10:46:39 PM(UTC)
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I think its a bodgy. I place a HX with BODY number 411782B in April 1977. The ADR plate is a 2/77. There is nothing suss about either the BODY plate or the ADR plate as they both look like Sandman plates, but my records show 2/77 Pagewood HXs with chassis numbers around AHX23xxxS. The chassis number looks a bit strange too, but that might just be the photo. I wonder if the body matches the ADR plate or if the BODY plate belongs to the body? Ive never seen a Pagewood ADR tag on an Acacia van body before either, although I believe Acacia assembled bodies for other plants - Warren??
This all looks wierd???

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#396 Posted : Friday, 23 May 2008 11:18:44 PM(UTC)
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the rail matched the ADR tag.
i am not 100% sure of those numbers on the rail, i took photos in the dark.
But at the time, they did match..(the rail and ADR #)
it could possible be AHX228xx
if i run into the guy again, i will get the numbers written down.
The photo of the vin showed nothing, but it was a "WM70.. T" i remember...
so that matches L31


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#397 Posted : Saturday, 24 May 2008 12:49:33 AM(UTC)
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Bryon, what is the number of sandmans that you have listed in total?
roughtly?
i phoned the guy with the HX XX7 Absinth, he is going to get back to me with the correct chassis number.

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#398 Posted : Saturday, 24 May 2008 7:48:00 AM(UTC)
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Byron, that HJ ute was on Ebay about 12 mths ago and I just saved the pic of the plate and its build date for reference.

Adam, as Byron has said those numbers seem suspect. Below are the plates for my Absinth Yellow HX Sandman. 3-77 built with chassis AHX 261**S, Body 227***-A. I have never seen a Brisbane built body on anything but a Brisbane built car, I would like to see a pic of the plates.

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#399 Posted : Monday, 26 May 2008 2:03:49 AM(UTC)
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sure, i can email them to you, perhaps you can post them up?
[email protected]


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#400 Posted : Tuesday, 27 May 2008 12:30:55 AM(UTC)
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got a TX massage ffrom the owner of the Absinth HX XX7 van
He thinks chassis is either AHX 093133 or AHX 083133
i hope this helps...

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