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Depends on the model, driveline etc
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Byron...its HX 1977,white,black interior, original factory 308 untouched (clean as a whistle), factory fittied A/C & power stering, original screen and all original paint, original carpets, full hood lining no tears, tinted rear window (as per factory air), tubo 400 auto, 336,000 kms, vertually no rust, original stone chips and scratches as for a 1977 holden, I am just getting into this Sandman thing and would again value you opinion...all plates and numbers as per yours and owners club numbers all match, I have original manual and delivery sheet for the vehicle..thanks heaps
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In my opinion, if it went through Shannons it would pull high $20,000s, maybe even crack $30k. Although I reckon a TH400 example is more valuable many value the manual higher. Its almost the ultimate combination for me. The only way to make it better for me would be to make it a HJ Kingswood ute. ID data would be great if you do buy it, plus a copy of the build sheet. It all helps to put the puzzle back togetehr.
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Thanks Byron....let me know where I can buy one for even 30K...just kidding...Let me know where I can send info(e-mail) or you can e-mail your details to me [email protected]
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Youll struggle to find them as described anywhere, but theyll always be pushed down value wise by Monaros. My email address is on my website.
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Byron,
Im curious to know why you say a HJ kingswood ute (i presume you are talking sandman) is better?
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Yes, HJ Kingswood ute with XX7 option.
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hi guys
does anyone know the actual change over date for hq to hj?
and is it even remotely possible for hq gts guards to have been pressed with th new hj slots at this time and then fitted to an hq?
just curious
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Im pretty sure its september 1974. I have both HQs and HJs recorded as 9/74 build. Not sure of the actual day. If you have HQ guards with HJ flutes and they arent welded in then they were probably pressed by the guy that used to do them in Western Sydney. I seriously doubt any HQ ever left a Holden assembly plant with HJ flutes, but stranger things have happened.
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yeh thans byron
the west sydney guy thing makes some sort of sense
there s a guy in maryborough qld that can press hj slots easily, but not possible to press hq slots with out cutting the edge of the guard to fit on his press and welding back on after pressing the only way to do it without weld in panels apparently
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hi there fellas
what would u make of this hq ute
5/74 4850 2
coupe utility
EHQ 2 XXXX S
matching chassis
8N8070H8 XXXXX Q
MODEL 80480QR
BODY 8 XXXX 8F
TRIM 1877-30E
PAINT 568 15827
L31 M21 GV2
GTS DASH GTS GUARDS SANDMAN LOGO STEERING WHEEL
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Good chance of being a Sandman. 30E trim is normal for a HQ Kingswood Sandman ute but also normal for a plain Kingswood ute. Does it have interior light door switches? Console mounting holes?
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HAS THE DOOR LIGHT SWITCHES
have to check for the console mounts tommorrow
also has a number stamped on the firewall ending in an S but it is 129 higher than the chassis / vin number
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That firewall number is important but doesnt match anything else. 129 difference is about right.
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So Byron, does that make the HJ kingswood ute with XX7 the rarest of the sandmans?
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No, I just reckon although the HQ looks better, I like the HJ because the TH400 was available, which to me makes it my ultimate - say a white with black trim HJ Kingswood XX7 ute in L31, M41, GU4 with air and steer. The rarest would probably be one of the 6cyl examples, maybe a 6cyl auto HX Sandman ute or a HQ 6cyl maybe. The HQ Kingswood XX7 ute in 308 M21 with air and steer is probably the most desirable and valuable. Possibly also an HX Overlander ute/van sold new through a Holden dealer may be the rarest of all.
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hi byron
havent had a chance to check the ute fro the console mounting holes today
if it does or doesnt have them, then what does that mean re it being a kingswood sandman?
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have a mate who also has a 1877-30e 568-15827 barbados green hq kingswood ute
it has gvw 4850 seating 3 but the engine trans and axle are all blank he has another hq kingswood ute nutmeg seating 3 but only the eng type is blank . any way is a seating 2 hq kingswood ute an uncommon thing
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Blank means 253 3 speed as it must be a 480 due to 4850lb GVW. Only ENG blank means its a 173 or a 253 (380 or 480) with optional transmission (M40 or M20) and optional diff.
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Going to pick this up next weekend Needs a heap of work What do you think? Safety compliance HJ......... PANEL VAN ....... 3-75 VIN ................8M70TEH346186J BODY ID PLATE MODEL............... HJ8WM70--- XX7................ HOLDEN Sandman panel van BODY.................346186B TRIM..................1886-19V................... black (removed my stuff up:) PAINT..................568-15949................ Absinth Yellow ENG..................L31 .............- 308. TRANS..............M21 ..............- Four speed close ratio floor shift manual. RAXLE..............GU4 .............- 3.08:1. Did all HJ Sandmans Have Colour coded tail light surrounds? Edited by user Saturday, 19 July 2008 2:03:01 AM(UTC)
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