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here is one on eay at the moment form that GVM changeover period 11/77 http://cgi.ebay.com.au/H...DVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
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I have it recorded but the chassis number is hard to read.
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hi byron
what are the differences between an hq M belmont sandman ute
and an hq N kingswood sandman ute?
is there different chrome trims or bits etc?
There is one M Sandman ute on ebay which mentions that it could be one of only 13 hq sandmans (PV & Utes) left today.
as i have an hq kingswood sandman ute, would that be included in the 13 mentioned or was there more HQ Kingswood SANDMANS THAN BELMONTS
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I dont know where he gets the 13 from. Look closely at the BODY plate too . The first line reads 80180, and the M21 looks funny. May be legit though with a mistake, but sure makes it hard to sell.
The differences between a Kingswood Sandman and Belmont Sandman are the same as between a normal Kingswood and Belmont ute. Not sure of all the differences, but trim, chrome tail-lights, stainless around the windows are a few. Remember in HQ XX7 was just an option pack like any other option pack. I listed what options on my website - from memory fluted guards, full instrument dash, M20/M22, bucket seats plus a few more. They simply added these to a Kingswood or Belmont ute, and deleted a few things like side strips on the Kingswood.
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i stopped today to see a HJ Sandman in a front yard. i knocked on the door and got an answer from a guy close to 60. he said he bought it new and its not for sale. He did let me have a look. its a XX7 with 19V trim. with 253 M20 GV4. No numbers on the GVM and it has a seating cap. of 3 and it looks like the seats and console never been changed. so what could it be.
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Hi Mikey. A compliance plate with no GVM figure is usually a non-commercial. Did this plate look to be original. Dr Terry Edited by user Friday, 1 August 2008 5:49:10 PM(UTC)
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nice work byron so its a factory 6 cylinder right?
did the sixes have the 4 speed floor or column shift manual or t-bar auto column available?
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Maybe, could be a mistake too. The VIN says T for 308.
Any Sandman 173 - 308 was a floor shift, either 4 speed or T-bar if auto optioned.
Mikey, if seating capacity is 3 its not a Sandman and wouldnt (or shouldnt) say XX7.
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Looks like a mistake. Original records show it as an 80270.
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the plates did look to be orginal. but a blank GVM with a seating cap. of 3. what would that be from if it has been changed, and the hood lining was gone and it had the rear brace and the side bits to hold up a hood lining.
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I dont think its possible to get a blank GVW (all ute, van and tonner had a GVW) with 3 seating capacity (no sedan, wagon or coupe had a 3 seat capacity). The ADR plate should tell you what it was off ie sedan, wagon, coupe utility, van etc. _______________________________________________________ If we all had the same (good) taste, who would buy all the Fords? Edited by user Saturday, 2 August 2008 5:52:04 AM(UTC)
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Anyone know when the last Hz sandman UTE was produced ?
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Late march 1979.
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I just picked up another sandman today ..
Hz8wm80 XX7
60 v trim
paint 1929 Opaline Blue
L32
M40
GU4
12/77
seating 2
and the odd thing is the GVW...
1860 kg
Is this normal...?
from what i can see it is an XU4 gvw????????
Ps... I may be selling the chassis and body with plates if anyone wants it...I only bought the ute for the 308 and t350 that was fitted...
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btw the tyre plackard is 9942987..interior has been changed to black so I not sure if it is correct glove-box
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From what Ive seen so far 1860kg is the corret GVW for a 1977 plated (ie on the ADR plate) HZ XX7. They seem to change to 1950kg about the same time the XX7 vans went from 1950kg to 2000kg (late December 1977). Tyre placard is not original. Can you send me the full ID, as stuff like this helps to paint the picture better? The change from 1860kg to 1950kg is something I havent put on my website as yet.
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vanman im interested in the ute. dropping you a email now =)
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I just picked up another sandman today ..
Hz8wm80 XX7
60 v trim
paint 1929 Opaline Blue
L32
M40
GU4
12/77
seating 2
and the odd thing is the GVW...
1860 kg
Is this normal...?
from what i can see it is an XU4 gvw????????
Ps... I may be selling the chassis and body with plates if anyone wants it...I only bought the ute for the 308 and t350 that was fitted...
i also have a opalene blue ute, adelaide build, 11/77.
It is 1860Kg and same driveline as yours.
yours is interesting , because the change of GVW isnt exactly known excactly.
12/77 may be when the change to 1950kg was made.
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Hi, can u guys give me some info on my HQ ute?
COMP PLATES:
HOLDEN HQ CAB CHASSIS
07/73
DHQ 31004A
GVW 5700lbs
MODEL: HQ80160
BODY No: 80552 A
TRIM: 1860-34A
PAINT: 568-15350
VIN: 8M60LCL246149Q
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As a stab Id say Adelaide built 6cyl one tonner with bench seat. Not sure on the paint or trim.
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