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#601 Posted : Monday, 22 September 2008 10:25:52 AM(UTC)
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Originally posted by HK1837
Id put about a 90% probability on it being a Sandman. 67C is indeed an odd trim code, but it may simply be a mistake. Is the trim brown or bone (off-white)? It may be meant to be 67V or 63C. Such mistakes do happen.

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Sorry I was referring to the issue of 67C
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#602 Posted : Monday, 22 September 2008 6:52:56 PM(UTC)
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My human error..

I had a HZ panel van which I ended up using for spares when I bought a better HZ panel van (less rusty with 253) and sent the first one off to get crushed :( ....anyway it had a GVW 2155, seating cap. 3, ENG L20, Trans m40, rraxle GV7, Model HZ8WM70 (or HZ8WN70 - this record is not clear), Built date 11-78, BHZ39279A, 8M70LJL433500Z, body no. 433500-A

I didnt take pictures but I have the details recorded in pen and also as a printed hard-copy, which been typed in a word document. My digital copy excluded the detail: Paint 568-8769 and the word TOP.

Strangely my first records (written in pen) indicate the following details as they appeared on the plates:

trim 1093-67C
paint 568-8769
568-0246

Also,

TOP
ENG L20

I definitely recall the word TOP being displayed exactly as shown above, as to the paint codes, well Im going off the records I noted down - perhaps its that recurring human error issue.

Jesse

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Being a 6cyl HZ it wouldnt have been a Sandman.

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#603 Posted : Monday, 22 September 2008 7:01:36 PM(UTC)
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Originally posted by adam PERTH
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Originally posted by vanman
These are from my 2 sandmans...








The GVm change from 2200 to 1950, on te brisbane build, is somewhere between:
BHJ 17525B to BHJ18142B.
only 600 cars different..

WANTED: QR 662xxx


Its actually between:

BHJ17782B & BHJ18142B. Appears to have happened in September 1975 so closer to the first number.

VANMAN, id love to get the clouded digits off the above photos as both are significant vehicles for my Sandman register. Just the body number will do - I can work the rest out.

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#604 Posted : Wednesday, 24 September 2008 7:55:17 AM(UTC)
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quote:
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quote:
Originally posted by HZpanelvanandsedan
My human error..

I had a HZ panel van which I ended up using for spares when I bought a better HZ panel van (less rusty with 253) and sent the first one off to get crushed :( ....anyway it had a GVW 2155, seating cap. 3, ENG L20, Trans m40, rraxle GV7, Model HZ8WM70 (or HZ8WN70 - this record is not clear), Built date 11-78, BHZ39279A, 8M70LJL433500Z, body no. 433500-A

I didnt take pictures but I have the details recorded in pen and also as a printed hard-copy, which been typed in a word document. My digital copy excluded the detail: Paint 568-8769 and the word TOP.

Strangely my first records (written in pen) indicate the following details as they appeared on the plates:

trim 1093-67C
paint 568-8769
568-0246

Also,

TOP
ENG L20

I definitely recall the word TOP being displayed exactly as shown above, as to the paint codes, well Im going off the records I noted down - perhaps its that recurring human error issue.

Jesse

(ecoimpact on oldholden.com)


Being a 6cyl HZ it wouldnt have been a Sandman.

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Yeah thats cool, not disputing that it wasnt a sandman, I realise sixers werent even in the running, however Id have thought that some of the trim codes were used for both V6 and V8s. I thought you might be interested in some pics of HZ door trims, not sure if 2 colours I have in the same pattern are original though?

In the following you were referring to someones sandman with the trim 67C, Did you find an example of that colour? (I would like to compare!)
quote:
Originally posted by HK1837
Id put about a 90% probability on it being a Sandman. 67C is indeed an odd trim code, but it may simply be a mistake. Is the trim brown or bone (off-white)? It may be meant to be 67V or 63C. Such mistakes do happen.

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I grabbed a whole heap of things from the one I had scrapped, door trims, bench seat, tailgate, bumpers, front grille, headlights, twin headlight nose cone and sadly forgot the radiator support (which the local tow truck driver promised to bring back two years ago :| Literally, I took everything attached on the outside!

Im pretty sure the guy I brought the scrapped panie off said the front end was off a premiere ??, however I cant be sure, if so then perhaps the trims are off another car/s.

http://gallery.oldholden...HZ+door+trims+and+seats/
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#605 Posted : Wednesday, 24 September 2008 4:10:17 PM(UTC)
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At first glance the two brown trims are WB (possibly one is tan and the other Oyster) but Id have investigate further to be sure. The lighter ones are HZ, I think beige and chamois. Again to be certain Id have to look further.

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#606 Posted : Wednesday, 24 September 2008 6:27:25 PM(UTC)
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I have a WB Kingswood ute with oyster trim which is quite different to the ones in the pics. None of the WBs Ive had have had the chrome/plastic ridge through them either. The oyster trims tend to have tan arm rests in later years (84)
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#607 Posted : Wednesday, 24 September 2008 7:37:47 PM(UTC)
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The brown ones are definitly the same as every WB base model I have owned or seen, including one new WB van. I think Oyster changed colour too in about 1983. The redder example is 67V from memory. I cant remember if the WB Kingswood trims are different to base model. The ones with the plastic ridges are also definitely HZ Kingswood also possibly HX Kingswood, and I cant remember what the non-Sandman HX/HZ base model trims looked like. I also had a 1980 HZ Kingswood near to new and the lighter trim in the photos (I think its Chamois) was exactly like it.

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#608 Posted : Sunday, 28 September 2008 7:05:48 AM(UTC)
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Other than because they didnt, does anyone know why 3 seater sandmans werent produced in an era where Id have thought 3 seating capacity (one for the owner and his two lady friends) was better compared to only one spare seat for a chick. ;)
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#609 Posted : Sunday, 28 September 2008 8:30:47 AM(UTC)
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Oh yeah I forgot to say thanks for the replys HK1837 and HX-sandman.
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#610 Posted : Sunday, 28 September 2008 5:57:36 PM(UTC)
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Thats because in the 70s the girls were meant to be in the back.

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#611 Posted : Monday, 29 September 2008 10:29:48 AM(UTC)
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LOL. Yeah but what about when your driving hahahaha Even though Im sure that would be dangerous if there two chicks sitting next to me while driving and they were...well... not keeping their hands to themselves. haha
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#612 Posted : Wednesday, 1 October 2008 6:08:32 AM(UTC)
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How many $$$$ do you think my HZ XX7 Sandman is worth..???(ID PLATES ON TOP OF THIS PAGE)

I have been offerd $3,000 no motor or box.. No front clip . body is fair, dash, s/wheel, console,speedy wheels and seats included...
I would like to keep it But wife wants it out of the back yard....
I want to put the money into the HJ xx7 Van..
Cheers VANMAN.....

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#613 Posted : Wednesday, 1 October 2008 4:11:42 PM(UTC)
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Sounds pretty close. It is a ute though which seems to be either rarer or there is a lot less of them left today. But it is a 253 example as well. Ebay would be worth a try though.

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#614 Posted : Wednesday, 1 October 2008 6:11:05 PM(UTC)
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Vanman. Mate i am VERY interested in it. My old man is looking for a hz sandman ute as a project. If possible can you drop me a email to j_ackland(at)aapt.net.au

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#615 Posted : Sunday, 5 October 2008 10:03:55 PM(UTC)
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I have already told the guy he can have it for $3k but will contact u if sale falls through...

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#616 Posted : Sunday, 5 October 2008 10:07:15 PM(UTC)
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is this a Sandman ??
If so it must be the XU3 option..
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/S...eNameZRSS:B:SRCH:AU:102
And can anyone explain to me why we have an XX7 aqnd XU3 option...I cant rememember...
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#617 Posted : Sunday, 5 October 2008 11:27:46 PM(UTC)
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If it is a Sandman its an XU3 as you say. Unfortunately its one of those Sandmans that you cannot pick from the ID making it harder to sell. XU3 is normal commercial tyres. XX7 is sedan tyres. That and the corresponding drop in GVW for sedan tyres on XX7 is the only difference.

Also very unusual to have 3.08 diff with M21 box. Would be a prick in reverse or first.
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#618 Posted : Monday, 6 October 2008 5:14:00 AM(UTC)
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vanman. we are very keen. would be keen to possibly pay more than 3k. so let me know if its avaiable.

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I have an original contessa gold hj sandman high comp 253 m20 4 speed and mine is the same only having two air vents and no vent above the ciggarette ligher on the gts dash
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I have an original adelaide built contessa gold hj sandman high comp 253 m20 4 speed and mine is the same only having two air vents and no vent above the cig ligher on the gts dash
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