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also the gvw reads 2200kg on both
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jimmy HX = No.
HJ = unlikely.
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How much do you think I could sell an HX Sandman ute for? Has all compliance plates and a glovebox tyre placard. Chassis has been replaced with HQ one at some stage. Body rusted badly. No motor, diff or gearbox. Basically just ID parts. Sports dash will be removed before it is sold.... Thanks, Steve
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to be honest not much at all. non original chassis is a downer. problem is the tags could not even be the original tags from the ute..... |
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Byron. I have sent you an email. in regards to the 76 sandman tyre placards!
Have been sent a pic of a new one!!!! throws a spanner in the works!
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fair enought. what is it then. being M70 its not a kingswood. could it be before they started stamping XX7 on the plates. i seen a few early HJs looking the same as my plate and late HJs with XX7. it has a full hood lining and the light swiches in the doors.
it is an Absinth yellow Belmont van, 253, trimatic, floor shift. XX7 was stamped on brisbane built HQ sandmans. the problem with this particular van is that it is actually from brisbane, lacks the XX7, and therefore it cant be a sandman. However, if it was hypothetically from Adelaide , for example, with the same build configuration as described, there is a possibility it could be a sandman. WANTED: QR 662xxx 1984 WB oyster crashpad 1x15x8 Cheviot armoulite HQ pair of 15" Dragway centrelines suit HQ |
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wow nice... if only it was a genuine black hj sandman. maybe it is?? http://cgi.ebay.com.au/1...WDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem |
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Might even have L34 or A9X rims on it too!
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hmm wouldnt that be nice. 14k would be too cheap if its a genuine black sandman i would have thought! |
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re hx sandman i have a 77 hx van seat cap 2 had full length rooflining twin door pins in front chassis no ahxc4282m trim 1886-67v paint 568-15949 8m70rgj558446x is numbers neg l32 trans m20 gv7
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Byron In reguards to a sandman on ebay http://cgi.ebay.com.au/hj-sandm...geNameZRSS:B:SRCH:AU:102I was unsure if the van was a sandman due to the 2200kg GVW on a 76 van.So i asked the seller is he sure it is genuine. Below is the guys reply.
"Hi all data has been verified by monaro parts 18 months ago and if u read all data you will find there where 76 hj vans with 2200 kg as a lot of tradies wanted sandmans but not the derated gvw so there were different tyres fited which give u 2200kg gvw but thanks for your info and do some more reading "I have not come across this before, is it true? If so how can I determine what is a sandman over all the other non acacia, 2 seater vans with the optional roof lining fitted I dont doubt him i am just confused.... Cheers Vanman
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2200kg has been on V8 Sandmans longer than a reduced GVW. All V8 Sandmans were 2200kg up until approx 1976 model, when XX7 dropped to a lower GVW and XU3 was introduced with 2200kg GVW for V8. The owner might have sent me the ID, but I couldnt have guaranteed it as one. It is odd how it has windows on one side only???
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Thanks for that I had forgoten about the XU3 ...Windows on one side ! a little strange not my cup of tea...
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hey i hope some one can help me and tell me if my sandman is a real sandman or not
Safety compliance
HJ......... PANEL VAN ....... 3-75
VIN ................8M70TEH345390J
BODY ID PLATE
MODEL............... HJ8WM70................ HOLDEN Sandman panel van
BODY.................345390B
TRIM..................1886-19V................... black
PAINT..................568-15949................ Absinth Yellow
ENG..................L31 .............- 308.
TRANS..............M21 ..............- Four speed close ratio floor shift manual.
RAXLE..............Gv4
seating cap 2 2200kg GVW
is has no xx7 or xu3 on the plate
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No its not a Sandman, unless Holden forgot to stamp XX7 on the BODY plate (there was no XU3 in a 3/75 model), although it certainly looks like one apart from that. Even if it was a mistake no-one will ever treat it as a Sandman as all Brisbane built examples are supposed to have XX7 on them. Ive never seen a Brisbane HJ Sandman that wasnt stamped. Does it have a rear headlining and interior light switches on the door opening? What about GTS guards and wheels.
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I have seen a geniune 74 GTS sedan without the XV4 code on the tag, just saw teh 30Y trim code and later realised it was a Brisbane car without the code.
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Ive seen a number of HQs as well without XX7, but not one Brisbane HJ-HZ has yet to surface with XX7 or XU3 missing. Problem is, with a HJ (and to a lesser extent HX/HZ) you can claim all day its a Sandman but if it is missing the XX7 (or XU3 with late HJ) there is no way to tell if it is or not. Even genuine books can be faked. The HQ XV4 owner is lucky as the trim code is unique to XV4, unless of course the 30Y is an error?
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How can I prove this is a genuine sandman (if i decide to sell it)?
The story....... so far
I just found and purchased a rusty HJ, Jamaica Lime sandman its a one owner car...the old guy who bought it said it was purchased as a sandman. The sandman stripes were removed aprox 12mths after he bought the van as he didnt like them...the van has gts front clip, dash, wheels, roof lining etc.. it is an Adelaide build, 6cyl, 4speed, compliance plate says 2 seater and the GVW is 2155..(I will post pics of the ids etc soon).
The glove box lid has placard number 9930172...Does the fact that the ND is not on the placard mean anything?
I think it still has the original tyres can i use them as confirmation...
I am trying to get the original paperwork for it but i think it will be long gone...
BTW were there many 6cyl sandmans sold back in the 70s?
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Bugger all. I think I have two recorded, and just spoke to a guy today who has bought a 202 M20 example.
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