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yeah read it all,dont think i have one.i just got lost with it all lol i have a
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modelHZ8WM80 Body473###A trim 1930-67C
L20 M15 GV7
Gvm 2155kg
Just a ute i guess lol let me know otherwise
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G/day Byron,
I hope you can determine if the ute I just bought is a Sandman?
3/76 BHJ13828M
GVW 1860kg SEAT CAP 2
MODEL HJ8WM80
BODY 516778M
TRIM 1886-19V
PAINT 568-15949
ENG L32 TRANS M40 RAXLE GV4
8M8ORF J516778J
TYRE PLACARD PART no: 9941014
Thanks for your time & help.
Hard one. Base model HJ Sandman utes are very rare, most so far recorded are Kingswoods. Auto Sandmans are virtually non existant, but funnily enough I have a near identical Melbourne base model to yours recorded with PSN J516746. The only difference is its a 3.08 diff whereas yours is a 3.36 (which incidently is rare in HJ with 253 trimatic). I dont have a chassis number for it but Id bet that if they are not consecutive then theyd be damn close. They may have been both ordered by the same dealer. The tyre placard seems to be applicable to XX7 late HJ utes as well, so based upon that Id say you have a very good chance of it being one. _______________________________________________________ If we all had the same (good) taste, who would buy all the Fords? |
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G/day Byron,
Thanks for getting back to me so quickly. Your reply sounds very positive, but is there any way to find out 100%. If so I would appreciate your advise.
Thanks plenty, Mik.
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There is no way to tell for sure, unless you can find the build sheet under the carpet or the original log books for it.
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Thanks for your help, there is no duild sheet under the carpet so I will try and track down log book (needle in a haystack) but I dont like my chances. So I guess thats that.
Thanks again for your help. Mik.
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Originally posted by MIK
G/day Byron,
I hope you can determine if the ute I just bought is a Sandman?
3/76 BHJ13828M
GVW 1860kg SEAT CAP 2
MODEL HJ8WM80
BODY 516778M
TRIM 1886-19V
PAINT 568-15949
ENG L32 TRANS M40 RAXLE GV4
8M8ORF J516778J
TYRE PLACARD PART no: 9941014
Thanks for your time & help.
Also, that ute left the factory with a GU4 diff, so either youve read it wrong or its stamped wrong. I thought 3.36 behind a 253 trimatic was odd, but its not impossible. Ive only ever seen 3.36 behind a 308 TH400 in a HZ tonner. _______________________________________________________ If we all had the same (good) taste, who would buy all the Fords? |
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G/day Byron.
It definitely reads GU4, and assuming it was stamped correctly will this limit its chances of being a Sandman? Is there any other obvious features (internal or external) that are consistant with the 1976 HJ Sandman ute that you know of? Just one more question. Is there any difference (apart from colour) between white & yellow needle gauges?
Thanks alot, Mik.
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Just one more question. Is there any difference (apart from colour) between white & yellow needle gauges?
Thanks alot, Mik.
The yellow needle gauges suit HZ & WB series, white gauges suit HJ & HX series. The needles are differently shaped & the symbol graphics are a different design. The symbols on the HZ/WB gauges were designed to the ISO standard. Dr Terry |
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G/day Byron.
It definitely reads GU4, and assuming it was stamped correctly will this limit its chances of being a Sandman? Is there any other obvious features (internal or external) that are consistant with the 1976 HJ Sandman ute that you know of? Just one more question. Is there any difference (apart from colour) between white & yellow needle gauges?
Thanks alot, Mik.
GU4 is correct. You originally typed GV4 which is unusual behind a 253 auto. _______________________________________________________ If we all had the same (good) taste, who would buy all the Fords? |
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Thanks boys,
Is there anything you dont know? Sorry about the misprint Byron. Clever to pick up on it, that you did tells me your the right bloke to throw questions at. Im new at this gig so Ill have plenty more in the future if you dont mind.
Thank all, Mik.
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mik. something else about gts dashes ill add. the HJ HX white needle.
HJ is diferent to HX. The only diference is in the speedo and warning light under the clock.
On HJ the high beam warning light is in the dash facia. the HJ does not use a seperate light for the park brake warning. the "brake" warning light is for brake fail and also for park brake. the high beam is next to it.
The HX uses two brake warning lights. "brake" and "park brake". The high beam warning light is moved into the speedo.
hope that helps.
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the Later WB were different to HZ also with the text style of the numbers on the odometer.
the WB went more "digital" look and were thinner than HZ.
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mik. something else about gts dashes ill add. the HJ HX white needle.
HJ is diferent to HX. The only diference is in the speedo and warning light under the clock.
On HJ the high beam warning light is in the dash facia. the HJ does not use a seperate light for the park brake warning. the "brake" warning light is for brake fail and also for park brake. the high beam is next to it.
The HX uses two brake warning lights. "brake" and "park brake". The high beam warning light is moved into the speedo.
hope that helps.
cheers
jason
The hi-beam light changed at HX introduction but the BRAKE & PARK BRAKE light change didnt happen until ADR31 in late 1976 or early 1977, depending on which factory. So early HX have the same BRAKE light as HJ models. Dr Terry Edited by user Friday, 6 March 2009 9:42:05 PM(UTC)
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Thanks Jason, Adam & Doc for geting onboard, I appreciate your help.
My HJ ute isnt a rebuild but I would like to get it back to as original as possible, but from what you guys are telling me it needs little work, everything seems to be there. I have no way of knowing If its a Sandman because its log book & build sheet have gone AWOL, so I wont rush out for Sandman decals, but I will tidy up the cab a bit, Im sure that will keep me busy & broke for a while.
Can anyone tell me if theres a place in Aus that can get this clock working & recommend someone from Victoria to repair a crack in the dash.
Cheers Brothers, Mik.
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Dr Terry. So what would the early hx have where the "park brake" warning light is. or where the high beam warning light was. (now moved to the speedo) I just assumed that it would have had the seperate park brake light done at the same time as the high beam moving. Maybe it was just blank and red. Ive never seen one blank in a GTS dash. but never know....? |
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Mik...Try Howard Instruments (110 Northern Road Heidelberg West VIC
9457 4755) for the GTS clock.
They can fix them pretty cheaply, although I would not bother personally as they are very temperamental and may stop working anytime. Add to that the very annoying humming noise they make that will drive you nuts, best to just have a nice non working one.
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i was wondering if a hj sandman has 2 or 3 or 4 air vents in the dash? Are they the same style as the HQ [ plastic fins running horizontal ] or the HX- HZ kind plastic fins running vertical?
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Mik...Try Howard Instruments (110 Northern Road Heidelberg West VIC
9457 4755) for the GTS clock.
They can fix them pretty cheaply, although I would not bother personally as they are very temperamental and may stop working anytime. Add to that the very annoying humming noise they make that will drive you nuts, best to just have a nice non working one.
That explains a bit. I bought a HZ Premier Wagon last week and drove it out to the farm. When I went to get something out of the console later on I heard a buzzing and spent a good 5 minutes looking for it before I decided it was probably just better to disconnect the battery. Never heard the buzzing on the Ute or the Panelvan so I guess the clocks dont work in those 2.
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HI all i have a hj sandman Ive had for 25 years bought of 1 st owner lost the papers when moving sitting in shed i also just bought a hx that has sat idle since 82 last registered both are very run down i thought id just check with Holden weather original they got back today well get this im still scratching my head my hj is basically a Belmont with original v8 motor as they say numbers numbers match it and get this it come with a m22 and the hx they have no records i will post all tags soon but going on authentication sites everything matches and the placards no xxu numbers cheers kev
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Holden have no records to tell you Sandman or not. It also cannot be an M22 behind a V8. Theyve made plenty of such mistakes in letters of late that I have seen. Ive seen them state M22 instead of M20 before, plus L33 when the car is clearly an L32. Makes the letters they have sent to others seem worthless if they are making such basic mistakes on stuff you can actually check up on.
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